Well it is the opposite of fair, to be fair.

Because there will be some people - who aren't well-off - who will now have astronomical healthcare bills and some who won't, based on nothing more than their personal misfortune with health.

£100k in assets including property is not wealthy by any measure. It's a one-bed flat in Norwich.

Posted By: norway on May 18th 2017 at 16:18:59

Message Thread

Anyone noticed the Tory social care plans? (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 14:09:36
- Mighty big assumption that your house will be worth the same when you die (n/m) (NCFC) - glasgow, May 18, 16:16:56
  - It wont.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 18, 18:10:06
- Yawn! (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 18, 14:50:00
  - You're one of the board's proud Tories, Chelts... just a sneer? (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 18, 15:56:37
    - Good on the Tories I say! (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 18, 17:32:30
    - Ok.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 18, 16:15:18
      - Corporation tax is much higher in Germany... (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 17:12:45
        
        Yebbut not in eastern europe (where Dyson set up) (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 18, 18:00:55
      - Ok, thank you for the response (NCFC) - norway, May 18, 16:22:19
        
        The proposed new cut off is over four times what it is at the moment (£23K) (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, May 18, 16:43:19
        
        Wrong (n/m) (NCFC) - Bristol Graham, May 18, 17:48:35
        
        Wrong (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 17:14:14
        
        still wrong... (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 18, 16:51:33
        
        I think the point though Kirrie is that the means testing system only (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 16:51:02
        
        it probably won't come down to choice though will it? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 18, 16:58:13
        
        But are they not saying that (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 17:07:58
        
        all of that is irrelevant to my point (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 18, 20:21:52
        
        Sorry that maximum obviously could be more if they have savings as well (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 17:08:45
        
        But is the point not that it doesn't hit them - it comes off their estate? (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 16:33:31
        
        Ahhh the NHS fiasco makes sense now .. (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, May 18, 17:50:52
  - No social care to be provided by the state for people with more than £100k in assets (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 15:03:44
    - currently looking through the Tory Manifesto (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 16:00:55
      - Fourth one down (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, May 18, 16:08:37
        
        OK I saw that part in the manifesto (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 16:20:24
        
        Here (n/m) (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, May 18, 16:35:32
        
        Doh page 64/65 (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, May 18, 16:35:46
        
        Cba (n/m) (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, May 18, 16:52:12
        
        CBA? = Cant be asked (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 16:58:37
        
        Ok show me the part (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 16:50:25
        
        Tories are to merge social care and health care (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 17:52:58
    - While private landlords continue to get £9 BILLION a year from housing benefit. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, May 18, 15:05:46
      - I was a private landlord with a housing association tenant. (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 18, 17:47:44
      - and the Tories give tax cuts for huge corperations (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 15:17:35
- Seems pretty fair to me (n/m) (NCFC) - lurd, May 18, 14:48:06
  - Well it is the opposite of fair, to be fair. (NCFC) - norway, May 18, 16:18:59
    - More than four times the current figure! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, May 18, 16:44:29
      - wrong. Property is not currently included at all (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 18, 16:50:53
        
        So how do labour propose to fill the deficit gap? Seems to me it's the middle classes (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 18, 17:53:36
        
        Labour want to raise tax on people who earn more than 80K per year (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 18:03:06
    - You've made the mistake of thinking I actually want to debate with known troll, Larry Hagm (NCFC) - lurd, May 18, 16:25:49
- Oh well (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 18, 14:46:29
- Of which most Tory MPs will be executive directors of G4SCare (n/m) (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, May 18, 14:46:08
  - Mr May is a large shareholder in G4S (n/m) (NCFC) - bobble, May 18, 16:50:43
  - Yep (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 14:52:56
- she's bought the media off by confirming plans to drop Leveson 2 (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 18, 14:39:46
  - yawn, is it time for bed already? (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 18, 17:54:37
    - nothing worthwhile to add? there's a surprise... (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 18, 21:02:34
  - Yep (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 14:52:22
- nope, have you got a shed? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, May 18, 14:27:48

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