That's a very crude take on the immigration debate

Which in fact exemplifies why it's so difficult to have a rational immigration debate

Mass immigration of motivated and reasonably skilled people prepared to work for low wages (because they come from a poor country) has had a substantial impact on the UK working class. It would be nice to be able to have a sensible political debate about that without some Berkeley going "wuh! Foreigns!"

Posted By: Old Git on May 3rd 2013 at 10:03:33

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What I find puzzling is the huge support for UKIP in farming areas when .. (General Chat) - trustsec, May 3, 07:38:24
- Its not that complicated. A lot of people hate the EU and the fact we have (General Chat) - Jim, May 3, 08:42:12
  - Can you help an interested but ignorant voter out? (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 3, 08:52:22
    - Thing is, sovereignty is often illusory in any event (General Chat) - Old Man, May 3, 10:00:22
    - Cor, spot the non-lawyer (badge of pride, I know, I know) (General Chat) - Old Git, May 3, 09:25:31
      - Right. Thank you. But what I'm really after is actual examples (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 3, 09:34:27
        
        THEY BANNED BENDY BANANAS!! (General Chat) - Cart Gap Disco, May 3, 10:00:57
        
        It's a dramatic interpretation of what they actually did (General Chat) - King, May 3, 10:29:07
        
        Text and Data Mining exception to copyright (General Chat) - Old Man, May 3, 09:57:14
        
        That sounds like it would be a huge vote winner for UKIP. A really banner to rally behind. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 3, 09:58:38
        
        No absolutely not. But it's a concrete example that I have some profeshnial knowledge of (General Chat) - Old Man, May 3, 10:02:10
        
        AB doesn't actually want any real examples (General Chat) - Old Git, May 3, 10:05:27
        
        No no no, not at all. I just wanted to understand if there was more to that surrender of (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 3, 10:17:29
        
        Ok, pols (General Chat) - Old Git, May 3, 10:20:37
        
        "... regaining a bit of that sovereignty *shouldn't* necessarily ..." (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 3, 10:18:28
        
        my two pennith worth.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 3, 10:24:15
        
        that's a case in poin though (General Chat) - CWC, May 3, 10:32:29
        
        Its also the physical barrier between the UK and mainland Europe that causes the (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, May 3, 10:30:14
        
        Farage knew (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, May 3, 10:21:13
        
        "What are the things that Farage wants the country to do that at the moment we cannot?" (General Chat) - CWC, May 3, 09:46:16
        
        ^^^This is the correct answer (General Chat) - King, May 3, 10:17:15
        
        well there's the stop members of other EU countries moving here bit (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, May 3, 09:45:55
        
        "Wuh! Foreigns!" (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 3, 09:58:52
        
        That's a very crude take on the immigration debate (General Chat) - Old Git, May 3, 10:03:33
        
        Yes, you're absolutely right, and I apologise for that. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 3, 10:26:20
        
        Basically, people that work harder, more honestly and all that for less money (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, May 3, 10:25:22
    - here... (General Chat) - Tombs, May 3, 09:21:06
      - The first three cited sources (General Chat) - King, May 3, 10:10:38
        
        Blimey, another non-reader! (General Chat) - Old Git, May 3, 10:14:23
        
        Haha (General Chat) - King, May 3, 10:19:09
      - Mmm. Quite a lot of fairy stories there, really aren't there? (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 3, 09:49:00
        
        Ha ha - you didn't actually read it, did you? (General Chat) - Old Git, May 3, 10:12:17
        
        I meant the second link - the UKIP manifesto. Should've made that clear. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, May 3, 10:38:23
- Don't forget the EU farm subsidies (General Chat) - Waddockhunt, May 3, 07:45:26
  - "Dick Seaman" - that must be a made up name (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, May 3, 08:08:37
    - I bet he has some prize winning bullocks (n/m) (General Chat) - Waddockhunt, May 3, 08:13:58
  - For example (General Chat) - Waddockhunt, May 3, 07:49:50
- even in rural areas I suspect the vast majority of voters aren't farmers (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, May 3, 07:41:46
  - Tis true, I based it on the huge number of pro UKIP signs in farm fields (n/m) (General Chat) - trustsec, May 3, 08:06:18

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