Also suits labour to lose it

As at the next GE they can either play the 'The Tories stole your Brexit' card or 'The Tories took your EU' card as suits.

The Rees-Mogg brigade are best served by a Corbyn win as they can then pivot the party to be a pro harder Brexit party against a Labour party that will be appealing to those wanting a softer one. Slam dunk win for the Tories I fear as we see a mini referendum play out under the FPTP system with an unethusiastic Corbyn leading the soft Brexit charge.

Grim times all round if you are a centrist europhile. Screwed either way. We probably need a May win and Corbyn to oppose a Ref2 in the hope we see centrists from split from both parties and form a third way. But what's that over there, a flying pig???

Ref2 worries me in that who leads the pro EU argument? Not the Government, not the Labour party. Uphill struggle to beat the machinery that will be swinging behind a Deal/Brexit option for party political purposes.

Posted By: CWC on January 16th 2019 at 07:11:41

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With apologies to Tombs: political content (Betting) - Old Man, Jan 16, 06:56:41
- Looks like her 'cross party talks' will exclude Corbyn, one of the few people in Parliment (Betting) - megson, Jan 16, 09:37:26
  - Corbyn has positioned himself into irrelevance (Betting) - Ben, Jan 16, 13:34:26
  - They have all been very poor (Betting) - Jim, Jan 16, 09:40:28
    - This^^^^. Scrap the biggest scam ever, then have a GE with realigned parties (Betting) - Dunney, Jan 16, 09:49:30
    - Opposition oppose, that is their job. You can't blame the opposition for the failures (Betting) - megson, Jan 16, 09:48:16
      - had Lab opposed A50 then the election would've been easily won by the tories (Betting) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 16, 15:14:59
        
        How so? Labour got a lot of Remain votes in the GE. (Betting) - megson, Jan 16, 15:28:22
      - It is not their job to oppose the withdrawal agreement for the sake of it (Betting) - Jim, Jan 16, 11:55:37
- If they sort the Irish backstop then this deal will get voted through (Betting) - Jim, Jan 16, 09:19:01
  - backstop is integral to the deal (Betting) - CWC, Jan 16, 13:55:50
    - I don;t disagree - If they just gave themselves time to sort out (Betting) - Jim, Jan 16, 14:14:38
      - obvious solution, which could have been implemented 2 years ago (Betting) - CWC, Jan 16, 15:24:28
  - So fuck the Irish, then? Not now, but later, having got our deal. (Betting) - Dunney, Jan 16, 09:55:33
  - nope. the backstop might be what stopped many from voting it through - but there's plenty (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 16, 09:30:49
    - The Good Friday agreement will remain in place whatever is agreed (Betting) - Jim, Jan 16, 09:35:57
      - Yoir para 1 is an incorrect assumption (Betting) - CWC, Jan 16, 14:00:12
        
        That's not exactly what it says though (n/m) (Betting) - Jim, Jan 16, 14:13:40
        
        well no (Betting) - CWC, Jan 16, 15:31:29
      - oh well then - if Jim from The Wrath says it'll be ok, then fuck all the experts... (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 16, 09:56:36
        
        You do get really pissy sometimes don't you Ralf! (Betting) - Men without hats, Jan 16, 10:02:57
        
        I watched a video about roofing on YouTube, therefore I know more about it than you do (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 16, 10:34:22
        
        You won't find any experts saying leave is better (Betting) - Dunney, Jan 16, 10:17:42
        
        Not true. There are good reasons for leaving the EU. We just never hear them (Betting) - Higher Wrather, Jan 16, 10:30:41
        
        Can you give one known, not wishlist or maybe, benefit (Betting) - Dunney, Jan 16, 11:10:10
- Polls suggested a remain win first time round too (n/m) (Betting) - jAC, Jan 16, 08:11:46
  - What was no deal or May’s deal? (n/m) (Betting) - SCC 28, Jan 16, 13:46:01
  - Exactly. Polls unreliable. Especially if they predict a 'narrow' difference. (n/m) (Betting) - pab, Jan 16, 08:20:22
- May wins, early ge loses,ref2 loses, alternative voted down. Hard brexit. (n/m) (Betting) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jan 16, 07:58:45
  - Hahaha. (n/m) (Betting) - Dunney, Jan 16, 09:42:04
  - Not a chance. (n/m) (Betting) - norway, Jan 16, 08:26:46
    - Sadly I can see that happening (n/m) (Betting) - Steve in Holland, Jan 16, 09:18:07
  - no hard brexit (Betting) - CWC, Jan 16, 08:14:31
    - Can’t see them revoking (n/m) (Betting) - Steve in Holland, Jan 16, 09:18:25
    - What will be interesting this year are the European elections. (Betting) - Men without hats, Jan 16, 08:55:17
- Also suits labour to lose it (Betting) - CWC, Jan 16, 07:11:41
  - the leave vote faced the same uphill struggle last time (Betting) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 16, 08:09:07
    - Bloody bots come over here rigging our voting system. (n/m) (Betting) - Men without hats, Jan 16, 08:56:51
  - I can’t see any outcome that won’t leave both parties ripped in two (Betting) - SimonOTBC, Jan 16, 07:58:31

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