Reality is that normally it just comes down to results and performances

In that order.

But there is an issue in that a chunk of the fans don’t trust Wagner’s ability / judgement / tactics, or however else it could be described. It’s unusual for a manager to turn results around after such a bad run, I can’t think of another manager that’s done it.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on February 15th 2024 at 12:00:08

Message Thread

Can't really argue with any of this (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 15, 10:21:47
- Spot On. Nail hit firmly on the head. (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Splat, Feb 15, 14:24:57
- We booed the manager making an early sub which had cost us winning the game before. (NCFC) - DH Yellow, Feb 15, 14:12:25
  - But he explained clearly WHY he did it after the QPR game (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 15, 19:23:32
- I'd suggest that there are two e's in divorcees. Pretty sloppy (n/m) (NCFC) - MonkeyPuzzle, Feb 15, 12:45:35
  - He’s making the reasonable assumption that they are male (NCFC) - Old Git, Feb 15, 12:48:21
- I know it's a long shot but.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 15, 12:34:23
  - ^Taylor Swift^ American and always going on about Haterz (n/m) (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Feb 15, 13:06:35
  - 5% chance (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 15, 12:35:43
    - Me too. Thanks for the tip, whoever it was! (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Feb 15, 12:56:08
      - Stroud I think! (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 15, 12:58:34
        
        The reason its so high is.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 15, 14:14:13
        
        Coventry are 11/1 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 15, 14:24:51
        
        Clearly we should be the bookie in that case. (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 15, 14:39:49
    - The math(s) (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 15, 12:48:23
      - Market is around 22% chance of playoffs (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 15, 12:52:21
        
        Those two clearly corelate with each other (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 15, 13:07:15
- I wonder if this will be the answer? Arsenals Number 2 for new manager (NCFC) - megson, Feb 15, 12:15:47
  - is their something wrong with our current manager (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Feb 15, 12:32:31
    - The answer to the division mentioned in the article the parent post linked to. (NCFC) - megson, Feb 15, 12:39:16
  - Surely this is more negative to Wagner than a few boos? (n/m) (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Feb 15, 12:22:31
    - Club doesn't control the national media, could be nothing in it. (NCFC) - megson, Feb 15, 12:28:20
      - But is that the issue? A few things have made me think (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Feb 15, 12:32:23
        
        Maybe the comment about the summer (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 15, 12:38:39
        
        See what you mean, (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Feb 15, 12:37:02
        
        The interview after the game reminded me when i left my job (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Feb 15, 12:42:43
  - Have to say that does sound exciting but its a gamble. (NCFC) - megson, Feb 15, 12:17:05
- Maybe the club needs to split in 2 (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 15, 12:15:02
  - Everything isn't black and white (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 15, 12:59:49
    - Agreed (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 15, 13:32:50
- Moving the goalposts, wanting the impossible (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 15, 12:07:03
  - Also... (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 15, 12:22:17
    - The first applicants to HC FC are in! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 15, 12:23:46
- Fuck me what a bunch of millennial snowflakery (NCFC) - Old Git, Feb 15, 11:49:28
  - Reality is that normally it just comes down to results and performances (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 15, 12:00:08
    - Unheard of at Norwich that I can remember (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 15, 12:00:43
- Agree with the diagnosis but don't really understand the proposed solution (NCFC) - Bertie Russell, Feb 15, 11:48:27
  - The senior leaders at the club have got themselves in a great big hole (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Feb 15, 12:36:26
    - I agree with all of that, time will heal things (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 15, 14:07:04
    - If we (mostly) agree that the boos on Tues were unwarranted (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 15, 13:33:05
      - Wagner was entitled to say his piece, imho. (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Feb 15, 18:53:14
    - Really good post USH 👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 15, 13:03:54
    - POTD (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 15, 12:59:39
    - Good post. Completely agree. And (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 15, 12:55:18
    - Jim as manager, Loz on transfers and USH on comms (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Feb 15, 12:50:43
  - What it means is (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Feb 15, 11:52:46
    - "Entitled" as ever is the key word (NCFC) - mr carra, Feb 15, 12:04:38
  - It means sitting in a circle with a scented candle and a whale song CD (NCFC) - Old Git, Feb 15, 11:50:50
    - lol. Right. (n/m) (NCFC) - Bertie Russell, Feb 15, 11:51:26
      - WITHOUT LAUGHING (NCFC) - Old Git, Feb 15, 11:52:32
- I don't think even the fans know now what would appease them (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Feb 15, 11:36:18
  - Transport them back to Roeder, Hamilton, Grant eras to see how bad is really has been... (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Feb 15, 12:22:41
  - Welease Wagnerick! (n/m) (NCFC) - Bristol Graham, Feb 15, 12:06:21
  - Buttons on every seat to decide subs (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 15, 11:56:03
  - Jim as manager, loz i/c transfers (NCFC) - Old Git, Feb 15, 11:51:41
    - That would involve a very different half time hotdog challenge (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Feb 15, 12:30:17
  - Any peace talks would be like negotiating with a toddler who's stayed up too late and ate (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Feb 15, 11:41:17
- Is harmony possible with Wagner in charge? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 15, 11:27:13
  - We needed (and still do need in my view) more of a new broom than we've got (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 15, 11:43:09
    - Why is there such an issue with Zoe Webber? is it just because of who her husband is? (NCFC) - megson, Feb 15, 12:12:28
      - Well I can only speak personally but.. (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 15, 13:07:59
        
        this "meteoric rise" to which you refer (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 15, 13:44:15
        
        Yes but that is a completely different role to a CEO (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 15, 15:13:32
        
        Ah yes, Kensall & Munby (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 15, 16:03:27
        
        ^ stalking her on LinkedIn (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 15, 13:47:37
        
        Archant get the credit for this (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 15, 13:50:35
    - Jim, do you not think that part of the issue here is the Director of Football model, which (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Feb 15, 11:55:24
      - Not really. I don't mind the DOF role but the problem we had was that Webber did not (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 15, 13:16:10
        
        I'd agree with that, especially appointing Smith after Farke that will always be a (NCFC) - megson, Feb 15, 13:24:12
    - "very significant chunk" - show us your figures Jim? I'm hearing (NCFC) - Pixelman, Feb 15, 11:50:03
      - I can only go by the fans I know and interact with (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 15, 12:59:34
        
        That's fair, realistically though where do people think we should be with this squad? (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Feb 15, 13:01:37
        
        I think we are approaching where we should be in terms of league position now but (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 15, 13:22:36
      - Well, when we were doing badly (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 15, 11:59:16
  - If fan / club harmony is the priority, then sacking Wagner would be part of the solution (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Feb 15, 11:40:24
    - Totally agree (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 15, 11:57:29
- I’m hoping Delia comes on the pitch on saturday (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Feb 15, 11:14:18
- Boo Boo Boo, Lemme hear you say way oh (n/m) (NCFC) - inutero, Feb 15, 11:11:36
- It’s been like it since our second Prem relegation (NCFC) - jamesward, Feb 15, 10:47:23
  - Agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 15, 10:50:46
  - Yep let’s hope club and fans and all (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Feb 15, 10:48:58
    - Connected can come together and bring back some harmony … (NCFC) - loz, Feb 15, 10:49:30

Reply to Message

In order to add a post to the WotB Message Board you must be a registered WotB user.

If you are not yet registered then please visit the registration page. You should ensure that their browser is setup to accept cookies.