No it is not actually. It is also full of very subtle humour, satire, and makes fun of

perceived and genuine Englishness to a level only the English will fully appreciate.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on September 25th 2008 at 10:37:46

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If you could recommend me to read ONE novel (General Chat) - Nelsons final flanel, Sep 25, 09:29:09
- The Joys of Incontinence by I.P.Freely (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 25, 10:39:23
  - ... (General Chat) - Nelsons final flanel, Sep 25, 10:59:29
- The Goose Ran Off And Went Cold Turkey When Sally Did A Smell by Malkybarkid (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Sep 25, 10:32:29
- The Illuminatus Trilogy (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Sep 25, 10:31:10
- Da Vinci Code (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Sep 25, 10:31:05
- How To Mis-spell Your Job Title With One Simple Letter, by malkybarkid (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellalee, Sep 25, 10:30:31
  - I eventually got that. (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 10:33:44
    - :o) (n/m) (General Chat) - Yellalee, Sep 25, 10:42:34
- *** (General Chat) - harry boulders, Sep 25, 10:27:23
- Mess on the wall : Hugh Flung-Dung (n/m) (General Chat) - jafski, Sep 25, 10:26:15
  - ... (General Chat) - Nelsons final flanel, Sep 25, 11:00:19
- Could have been a long day by malkybarkid (General Chat) - Tomblander, Sep 25, 10:25:06
  - I was only going to do the ones I'd read though. (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:26:10
    - oh (General Chat) - Tomblander, Sep 25, 10:27:34
- The Big Wave: Sue Nami (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:25:03
  - ... (General Chat) - Nelsons final flanel, Sep 25, 11:01:02
- Surprised! by Omar Gosh (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:24:17
- Athletic Supporter by Jock Strap (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Sep 25, 10:24:01
- You Drip!: Lee K. Tapp (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:23:28
- When good minges go bad by Harry Pugh-Bibkbushe (n/m) (General Chat) - Tomblander, Sep 25, 10:23:02
- Bad Cow Jokes: Terry Bull (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:22:47
  - you used to send them in didn't you (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 10:23:48
  - ^^^ This is just a pipe dream ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 10:23:29
- Ambulance Driving: Adam Muhway (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:22:14
- All Alone: Saul E. Terry (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:21:51
- A Bestiary of Plant Eaters: Herb Avore (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:21:19
  - ^^^ Silly ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 10:21:59
- 40 Yards to the Cludgie by Willie Makeit and Betty Wont. (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:20:41
  - ^^^ Made up ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 10:22:17
- Emmas's War by Deborah Scroggins (n/m) (General Chat) - Tomblander, Sep 25, 10:20:21
- Rusty Bedsprings by I.P. Knightley (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:19:38
  - ^^^ Not actually in existence ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 10:22:35
  - batty books (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 10:20:19
- Gone for a Burton by Liz Taylor (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 10:19:02
- Christmas for Baldies by Yule Brynner (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Sep 25, 10:18:47
- Cooking Spaghetti by Al Dente (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Sep 25, 10:17:15
  - Alphabetti Spaghetti contains BSE (n/m) (General Chat) - Tomblander, Sep 25, 10:21:02
- Im currently on 'Brisin'gr' - The 3rd installment of the excellent Eragon series. (General Chat) - Yellow Ice, Sep 25, 10:16:22
- The elves and the shoemaker by Dumas (n/m) (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Sep 25, 10:13:48
- Under the Volcano by Malcolm Lowry. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 10:11:24
- I really really enjoyed High fidelity when I read it. Thing is with that book (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:10:18
  - lot of sense there (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 10:11:55
- Shirtlifter by Steve MacIsaac (n/m) (General Chat) - harry boulders, Sep 25, 10:09:46
- the adventures of huckleberry finn (n/m) (General Chat) - matt in london, Sep 25, 10:08:00
- Another football novel - The Unfortunates by B. S. Johnson. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 10:03:21
  - which reminds me: Christie Malry's Own Double-entry by B. S. Johnson (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 25, 10:11:04
    - YES! Love that one too. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 10:16:12
- How to Cook by... (n/m) (General Chat) - TheHoolahanElement, Sep 25, 10:03:16
  - I never touched her by D Haynes (n/m) (General Chat) - TheHoolahanElement, Sep 25, 10:04:14
- Spot the Dog (General Chat) - Flying Canary, Sep 25, 10:01:12
- The Wrong Boy - Willy Russell. (n/m) (General Chat) - songwriter81, Sep 25, 09:59:00
- Ghostbusters 2 (n/m) (General Chat) - TheHoolahanElement, Sep 25, 09:57:27
- The Croft goal was novel (n/m) (General Chat) - TheHoolahanElement, Sep 25, 09:54:52
- Recent: Jonathan Strange and Mr Norell. Classic: Brave New World by Huxley (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 25, 09:52:27
  - The Lord of the Rings: great story.... (General Chat) - HairyBobbingManAss, Sep 25, 10:03:23
    - I disagree. I think Tolkien's use of the English language is the nads (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 25, 10:36:02
    - i watched the films first then read the books of LOTR (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 25, 10:22:59
      - I was pretty happy with the films (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:27:19
        
        oh and how could i forget Old Tom, and the Return to the shire. (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:29:52
  - I've avoied the Strange and Norrell one for the useless reason (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:59:17
    - She do live in Cambridge - try it, it is very good. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Sep 25, 10:04:02
      - isn't it a bit Harry Potter for grown ups? (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 10:05:01
        
        No it is not actually. It is also full of very subtle humour, satire, and makes fun of (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 25, 10:37:46
        
        Tsk Harry Potter is Harry Potter for grown ups. (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:11:31
        
        I can even magic up double posts after reading it. (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:13:41
        
        Tsk Harry Potter is Harry Potter for grown ups. (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:11:31
  - The Spire by William Golding is also brilliant. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 09:56:22
  - Yes, I enjoyed Jonathan Strange (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Sep 25, 09:55:58
    - The Stand is very good isn't it? (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:14:25
    - That book with Holden Caulfield in it is very, very good. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 09:58:11
      - Catcher In The Rye (n/m) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 25, 10:15:04
  - I've only avoided that because (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Sep 25, 09:55:16
  - *Norrell* (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 25, 09:52:43
- A Vindication of the Rights of Woman by Mary Wollstonecraft. (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 09:52:19
  - That's not a novel (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 25, 09:52:57
    - Fly fishing by J R Hartley? (n/m) (General Chat) - TheHoolahanElement, Sep 25, 09:55:42
    - Oh. (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 09:55:16
- Dice Man (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Sep 25, 09:48:58
- Jude the Obscure (n/m) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 25, 09:47:19
- To Kill a Mockingbird (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Sep 25, 09:47:02
  - Is that the one with Emile Heskey in? (n/m) (General Chat) - TheHoolahanElement, Sep 25, 09:56:09
- The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell (n/m) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 25, 09:45:32
  - Second what Berlin said - Has to be Tressell... n/m (n/m) (General Chat) - woody, Sep 25, 09:49:42
- Chickenhawk (General Chat) - pieman63, Sep 25, 09:39:57
  - Vietnam book recommendations (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 25, 09:56:00
    - On a similar note, I enjoyed the Novel of Black Hawk Down. (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:21:58
    - Oh I've read Dispatches - excellent. (General Chat) - pieman63, Sep 25, 10:20:38
      - You'll struggle to find Page after Page as it's out of print (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 25, 11:26:38
- would you be reading it with the idea that it might give you a taste for reading (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:39:02
  - the former, probably (n/m) (General Chat) - Nelsons final flanel, Sep 25, 09:46:56
    - and would you like it to be 'hard work' but worthwhile, or a relatively light read? (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:48:14
      - don't mind, really-just want it to be any good (n/m) (General Chat) - Nelsons final flanel, Sep 25, 09:48:55
        
        Of the list so far (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:50:02
        
        Never read that - always thought it was a bit shit (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Sep 25, 09:57:23
        
        I'm reading "The end of the affair" (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 10:02:52
        
        Oh arr, that's another of my faves. The sequel was crap though (Closing Time). (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Sep 25, 09:53:51
- The Enchanted Wood or The Wishing Chair (n/m) (General Chat) - lovely old job, Sep 25, 09:37:28
- Nineteen Eighty-Four, George Orwell (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Sep 25, 09:36:19
  - ^^^ FAO BerlinCanary and PK - Yes. ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 09:44:02
    - I've read it now... (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 25, 09:47:35
    - there's an interesting pairing (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:46:28
  - That's what I thought - (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:38:05
    - There's the Waterstones top 100 of the 20th century (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Sep 25, 09:44:43
      - Hmm. 28.5 or 29.5. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Sep 25, 10:12:02
        
        I loved the Rings, again though first read it about 13 (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:18:18
      - I've read about 10 of them, more than i thought! (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 10:04:27
      - I wonder how many people who rate Ulysses have actually read it (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 25, 09:58:16
        
        i read Potrait Of An Artist As A Young Man sort of as a preperation to read it (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 25, 10:14:37
        
        I used to have that as my New Year's resolution each year (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 10:04:12
        
        I'm pretty certain I'll never try again (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 25, 10:27:33
        
        me too (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 10:32:29
        
        I've read it, and it's brillo pads. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 10:02:35
    - However I've decided on The Sportswriter by Richard Ford (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:41:43
      - Ah, we've done Richard Ford before (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 25, 10:00:47
        
        yes we have (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 10:07:35
- What age bracket do you fall into? (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Sep 25, 09:32:32
- As this is a football site (sometimes) - The Damned United by David Peace. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 09:31:27
  - yep - just finished that - excellent book (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Sep 25, 10:13:26
  - Agree. As dark as a black mouse in a coalmine. (n/m) (General Chat) - malkybarkid, Sep 25, 09:53:48
  - i'm reading that at the moment, got up to The Fifth Reckoning (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 25, 09:46:52
    - I don't agree - I thought the Damned Utd was much better than My Father and etc etc (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Sep 25, 09:48:40
      - i'm getting annoyed with the repetition in The Damned (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 25, 09:53:03
        
        yeh it did grate on me...but so would have Clough...which was part of the point (General Chat) - Brandonio, Sep 25, 10:14:28
      - I'm going to have to catch up on these (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:51:25
        
        you could try 'The Library'... (General Chat) - blindasabat, Sep 25, 09:56:01
        
        I struggle with not 'owning' them too (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:58:19
        
        Never heard of it. Top of my bought-but-not-got-round-to-yet is (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Sep 25, 09:53:12
  - Seconded. Two other footy books although not fictional are (General Chat) - jafski, Sep 25, 09:35:32
    - Duncan Hamilton's book on Brian Clough is fascinating, too. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 25, 09:40:44
      - Is that the 20 years with Clough one? I haven't read that yet. ** logs on to Amazon ** (n/m) (General Chat) - jafski, Sep 25, 09:45:19
      - I think Mr C preferred that to the Damn United (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 25, 09:43:59
- Catch 22 (n/m) (General Chat) - Culverhouse, Sep 25, 09:30:53
- Carter beats the Devil (n/m) (General Chat) - dear prudence, Sep 25, 09:30:21
  - Good, but better, and in a similar (almost) vein: Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell by Susan (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Sep 25, 09:42:25

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