Given how the draw has panned out, what constitutes a successful tournament for England?
Got to be winning it, hasn't it? If we don't make the final it's a failure, if we lose in the final to Spain / Germany / France, then probably in line with expectations.
Southgate has had some seriously good fortune in 3 out of 4 major tournaments with the opposition we've faced. Got to capitalise on this one.
Posted By: SimonOTBC on July 1st 2024 at 10:39:22
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- Given how the draw has panned out, what constitutes a successful tournament for England? (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 10:39:22
- The only 'success' is winning it - everything else... well it depends. (Other Football) - norwaay, Jul 1, 12:48:25
- Indeed, and everything that's gone before will be forgotten if we start (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 1, 13:02:39
- And interestingly, there was a player revolt (Other Football) - norwaay, Jul 1, 13:08:25
- Even then, the Cameroon and Belgium performances weren't amazing (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 1, 13:15:24
- And interestingly, there was a player revolt (Other Football) - norwaay, Jul 1, 13:08:25
- Agree with all of that (n/m) (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 12:59:08
- Indeed, and everything that's gone before will be forgotten if we start (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 1, 13:02:39
- Also, stating that anything other than winning it is failure is silly... (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 1, 12:31:14
- I didn't say that anything other than winning is failure (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 13:01:59
- The run to the final doesn’t help you win the final (n/m) (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 1, 13:15:07
- Who said it did? (n/m) (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 13:18:30
- The run to the final doesn’t help you win the final (n/m) (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 1, 13:15:07
- I didn't say that anything other than winning is failure (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 13:01:59
- Semi final but I’d say QF is already par (n/m) (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 1, 12:26:10
- There is no 'par'. (Other Football) - norwaay, Jul 1, 13:10:24
- Well, given that until Southgate no England manager had ever taken us to (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 1, 13:35:09
- I think norwaay said that losing to Switzerland would be a failure (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 13:39:52
- Well, given that until Southgate no England manager had ever taken us to (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 1, 13:35:09
- You think Switzerland have a better squad than we do? (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 13:02:36
- Football is not an algorithm. I don't think they have a better group of players, no, but (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 1, 13:21:05
- I don't disagree that they are performing better so far (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 13:25:23
- I think Akanji and Xhaka walk into our team (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 1, 13:08:45
- Football is not an algorithm. I don't think they have a better group of players, no, but (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jul 1, 13:21:05
- There is no 'par'. (Other Football) - norwaay, Jul 1, 13:10:24
- Everyone in this thread so far seems to be overlooking (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 1, 10:55:52
- Objectively, our performances make us one of the weakest remaining teams (Other Football) - Under soil heating, Jul 1, 11:37:42
- I've only actually watched the 6 mins added time after 90 mins last night (Other Football) - Captain Bligh, Jul 1, 11:32:40
- That’s why the final would be a decent result durrrrrr (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 1, 11:32:07
- Yes, but that's our problem (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 10:59:08
- Not defending Southgate, but are our players as good as we think they are? (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 1, 11:02:31
- Looking at past England teams pre-Southgate, most players were MASSIVE footballing names (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 1, 11:13:03
- England players are oftern very good in teams where they are surrounded by (Other Football) - megson, Jul 1, 14:51:15
- Foden won PL POTS (n/m) (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 11:32:52
- In my opinion, yes they are (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 11:08:40
- Looking at past England teams pre-Southgate, most players were MASSIVE footballing names (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 1, 11:13:03
- Not defending Southgate, but are our players as good as we think they are? (Other Football) - jamesward, Jul 1, 11:02:31
- Can't say I'm overly confident, not with Gareth in charge. (n/m) (Other Football) - DrDublin, Jul 1, 10:51:48
- I think Southgate is in win or bust territory now (Other Football) - 51eve, Jul 1, 10:50:55
- He literally is given his next defeat will be the end of his England career (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 10:51:54
- Given the history of the game in this country ... (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Jul 1, 10:50:33
- That should be the case without the friendly draws we've enjoyed (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 10:53:14
- Final (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jul 1, 10:48:22
- We'll never have a better chance to win a national tournament (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 1, 10:40:30
- As was the case in the last Euros and to a degree the World Cup (Other Football) - Jim, Jul 1, 10:46:38
- Agree (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 1, 11:05:44
- There was no shame in losing to France at the WC (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 10:51:11
- To be fair, we had one in 2021 (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Jul 1, 10:46:11
- It was said multiple times at every major tournament since 2018 (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 1, 11:05:08
- As was the case in the last Euros and to a degree the World Cup (Other Football) - Jim, Jul 1, 10:46:38
- The only 'success' is winning it - everything else... well it depends. (Other Football) - norwaay, Jul 1, 12:48:25
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