Sorry but two things wrong with this thread

1) Maximum cheat had also lapped the 5 cars before the Safety Car - they passed him whilst on the track. It was in Red Bullies strategy that the lapped cars would unlap themselves giving themselves an advantage.

2) Hamilton could not have pitted on the next lap as the Pit Lane is closed and no further pit stops allowed even if they were he would have come out in last place at the back of the snake of cars and couldn’t overtake.

Whilst I am still certain that RB stole the race and therefore the championship my reasoned thoughts are that the SC process is actually totally unfair on whoever the lead driver is whenever it happens as they are restricted in their decision making process. Even on lap 20 whoever is in the lead is effectively put in a position where whatever they decide to do The second place team would have an easy choice to do the opposite and gain an advantage either on track or with fresh tyres. Perhaps there should be a rule that if the SC is needed with 10 or less laps to go the race is stopped and the cars re start from the pit lane in the order on the track at the time the SC would have been deployed with a time gap equal to that at the point of the Incident giving rise to the SC.

Posted By: Ruttles on December 13th 2021 at 10:46:38

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After reading lots of comments from pundits ,experts and others, my thoughts (Other Sports) - Farkeball, Dec 13, 09:29:45
- The arguement that "any" didn't mean "all" in the context of that reg is daft as well (Other Sports) - megson, Dec 13, 12:39:54
  - I don’t see how you can interpret the wording (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 13, 12:45:01
    - Agree, it clearly means all of them, there has to be changes to that now. (Other Sports) - megson, Dec 13, 12:54:12
- From my limited knowledge Lewis was in a no win (Other Sports) - DiscoDale, Dec 13, 11:01:34
  - Not sure about brown envelopes, Williams are a Merc customer aren't they? (n/m) (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 13, 11:03:47
- Sorry but two things wrong with this thread (Other Sports) - Ruttles, Dec 13, 10:46:38
  - Thanks for that info, I did not know the pit lane had closed (Other Sports) - Farkeball, Dec 13, 13:44:13
- Only solution to this (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 13, 10:13:18
  - Sounds like Cars (n/m) (Other Sports) - Highway, Dec 13, 18:35:23
  - *20/20/20 (n/m) (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 13, 10:13:44
    - Go karts round Red Lodge (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Dec 13, 10:16:53
      - Funny Cars at Santa Pod (n/m) (Other Sports) - Augustus Pablo, Dec 13, 10:33:10
        
        Fight in Sumo Fat Suits. Best of three. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Old Man, Dec 13, 11:26:49
- The title of race director has never been more apt (Other Sports) - Ben, Dec 13, 10:13:11
  - There’s no fairness. It’s an unpopular concept these days sadly 😕 (n/m) (Other Sports) - NorskyNormann, Dec 13, 12:09:35
  - I blame Netflix (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Dec 13, 10:14:38
- For me, the main question is what is the role of the race director? (Too many words) (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 13, 10:07:50
  - Vmt (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 13, 10:29:46
- There's no way that Max would have got past Lewis if the lapped cars hadn't un-lapped (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 13, 09:36:59
  - He had two options (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 13, 10:00:11
    - Yep, agreed. I think Mercedes ought to take it as far as necessary until it is resolved (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 13, 10:07:04
  - The pickle the FIA is in is that (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 13, 09:46:11
    - Yes, but in reality this decision would never have been made at any other time in the race (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 13, 10:10:26
    - Absolutely - based upon Masi's evidence as per the stewards' decision, he seemingly (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 13, 09:57:04
- Wrong if Lewis pitted he would have given up track position (n/m) (Other Sports) - loz, Dec 13, 09:33:36
  - If he had pittted then RB wouldn’t have done (Other Sports) - CWC, Dec 13, 09:40:44
    - I had forgotten about that first lap incident, as you say so many "ifs" (n/m) (Other Sports) - Farkeball, Dec 13, 09:51:28
    - sorry, what I meant was Max pits first then Lewis pits. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Farkeball, Dec 13, 09:49:44
      - He didn't have time, would still have lost track position (n/m) (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 13, 09:51:36
        
        would he have lost track position to Max if they both pitted under safety car? (Other Sports) - Farkeball, Dec 13, 09:54:19
        
        Lewis was ahead. If he had pitted, Max would have stayed out (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Dec 13, 10:03:32
        
        Having said that, Max's tyres would then have been the old ones (Other Sports) - jamesward, Dec 13, 10:07:14
        
        No team would ever voluntarily give up track position though (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Dec 13, 10:18:02
        
        I think he means if Lewis had pitted on the next lap after Max (n/m) (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 13, 10:08:18
        
        Wasn't time was there? (Other Sports) - jamesward, Dec 13, 10:14:54
        
        This is about the full SC at the end I think, Lewis could have pitted on the lap after Max (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 13, 10:17:57
        
        Yes, because after pitting under the SC Max was then able to drive faster than Lewis as (Other Sports) - NxNW, Dec 13, 09:58:18
    - Yea just sporting integrity wise rules are rules … (Other Sports) - loz, Dec 13, 09:42:51

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