Yep

What was refreshing at the start (new, young players, a focus on the collective) has quite quickly got stale in my view.

We've got a really good bunch of youngsters but I never get the sense that tactically we've got the nouse to beat the very best sides.

Undoubtedly it's better than the years where we struggled to qualify, but a top, top coach I think would be looking at grafting in a few players with a bit of savvy to help us manage games against the best teams.

In tournament football anything is possible - and I'll give Gareth kudos for making the team likeable for the first time in years.

Posted By: Cardiff Canary on June 3rd 2021 at 10:12:49

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Supporting England under Southgate (Other Football) - paulg, Jun 3, 09:38:51
- Unlike all the other managers we've had in your lifetime? (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Jun 3, 13:13:03
- We were discussing this in work yesterday (Other Football) - KetteringRyu, Jun 3, 11:40:06
  - I don't recall your tenure as England manager (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Jun 3, 12:11:01
    - Ha. Ha. (n/m) (Other Football) - KetteringRyu, Jun 3, 12:24:22
- Could it be that England just aren't *that* good? (Other Football) - megson, Jun 3, 11:03:07
  - definitely agree with that. Although I do think... (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 11:23:28
    - That's very fair, he's not the most attacking minded manager. (n/m) (Other Football) - megson, Jun 3, 12:11:39
  - English players aren’t that attracted to playing abroad (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 11:13:41
    - Agree, but that goes with the point, the mentality is not quite right (Other Football) - megson, Jun 3, 12:14:08
      - Yes definitely (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 12:20:57
        
        That is very true as well. (n/m) (Other Football) - megson, Jun 3, 12:33:42
- Judge him on tournaments not friendlies/warm ups. Let's not forget that in an alternative (Other Football) - Adster, Jun 3, 10:36:24
- I watch us and think we have some great players and yet it’s (Other Football) - Jim, Jun 3, 10:27:48
- GS only got the job by default., (Other Football) - Canarygunn, Jun 3, 10:26:51
  - Jumbo's gone further in much bigger tournaments tbf. (n/m) (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 3, 10:57:16
  - He won the league cup twice as a player (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 10:29:20
    - Reminds me of a newly promoted prem team (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 10:32:03
- Yep (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, Jun 3, 10:12:49
- Really? I think he’s been one of the most refreshing Eng managers for ages. (Other Football) - DH Yellow, Jun 3, 09:58:05
- Maybe it’s just me but I think we’re pretty good under Southgate (Other Football) - Duck, Jun 3, 09:54:25
- Didn’t Southgate play in a euros semi final? (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 09:48:07
  - Venables the man who wouldn’t pick Le Tissier because he didn’t work hard enough..... (n/m) (Other Football) - helvegtheowl, Jun 3, 10:50:29
    - Think that was Hoddle, no? (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, Jun 3, 13:40:22
    - Cheers for reminding me of that (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 10:58:42
- Got to the Semi finals of the World Cup. That’s more than mediocre. (Other Football) - BigGrantHolt, Jun 3, 09:45:00
  - by beating Colombia (on penalties) and Sweden (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 09:49:36
    - Hmmm (Other Football) - norwaay, Jun 3, 13:39:51
    - World Cup in S Africa. On a free day he declined going on trip to meet Nelson Mandela (Other Football) - pab, Jun 3, 10:14:52
      - Excellent professionalism (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 10:20:35
    - Incidentally, if we win our group in the euros, we won't have that easy draw this time (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 09:54:57
      - Let’s just take it 1 game at a time (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 09:57:41
    - Can only beat what’s in front of you (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 3, 09:54:48
      - That is pretty much the most rubbish and meaningless of mindless sporting cliches (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 09:55:58
    - Bit harsh. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, Jun 3, 09:53:40
      - I think he's done pretty much exactly what most of his predecessors have done (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 3, 10:00:56
        
        Yeah, it's just England really isn't it? (Other Football) - jamesward, Jun 3, 10:10:29

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