Gut feel is no claim

but that assumes no conflicting prior examples, and the clubs all agreeing that any votes on these topics are binding on everyone.

Shooting from the hip as I cant be arsed spending half a day pouring over public documents to only be able to give half an answer, but it's a bit of a nonsense if you have a membership organisation taking majority votes on such important decisions but leaving it open for the minority to just challenge in the courts.

There's an element of needing to be grown ups about this. To the extent it's not covered in existing constitutional documents I'd expect them to agree the revised procedures to make sure decisions are binding on everybody before sitting down to agree how it's all going to work.

Legally, as far as I can see, is that this is such a novel situation that you have a risk (if challenging it) that the whole season is voided as there is no way to agree on how to complete it. That's just such uncharted territory in terms of future consequences that I can't believe they won't also be tying this decision in with agreeing how they will sort out the financial impacts on TV deals etc as part of the same group decision making process.

So if you bring down the agreement on relegation, you bring down the revised TV deal...

So I suspect any legal challenge by a disgruntled club would be a pyrrhic victory, as it would unravel everything and probably leave themselves with a massive financial black hole when the TV money has to be handed back.

Of course I am just talking out of my arse, as I'm not party to the conversations and have only glanced over league rules/constitution etc, but I would be surprised if this isn't being approached in a spirit of good faith and looking at the whole situation in the round given there is so much tied up in it all. If we get outvoted, we get outvoted.

Posted By: CWC on April 16th 2020 at 10:54:27

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Season to end by July 1? (Other Football) - avenging canary, Apr 16, 09:56:18
- If we do ultimately get regulated (Other Football) - Trent_Canary, Apr 16, 10:55:53
  - ... (Other Football) - CB41, Apr 16, 11:49:17
    - Only a matter of time before Champs too? (n/m) (Other Football) - CB41, Apr 16, 11:50:22
      - intriguing possibility that with a cap... (Other Football) - CWC, Apr 16, 15:08:43
- Copy & paste for us non-subscribers? (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 16, 10:22:14
  - It’s only allowing me to select a paragraph at a time. (Other Football) - avenging canary, Apr 16, 11:23:25
    - No worries (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 16, 11:23:38
- Yeah that's fair enough imo. (n/m) (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 16, 10:19:00
- it'd be chaos trying to complete it (Other Football) - CWC, Apr 16, 10:01:54
  - Just whether they promote the top two void completely ... (Other Football) - loz, Apr 16, 10:12:29
    - I don't see how you can promote the top two when Fulham are still in the mix (Other Football) - Jim, Apr 16, 10:18:50
      - because fulham are not in the top 2 (Other Football) - Chris Peacock, Apr 16, 10:23:52
        
        Its not if you are saying you won't relegate the bottom three (Other Football) - Jim, Apr 16, 10:31:32
        
        i think the phrase "no team should be in a worse position than when this started" is key (Other Football) - Chris Peacock, Apr 16, 13:11:23
      - Agreed. If you try to model an outcome it just leaves you open to attack. (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 16, 10:21:08
        
        I don't see how we could have any real objection to being relegated (Other Football) - megson, Apr 16, 11:32:24
        
        I tend to agree, however we have winnable games at home still to come, and our form has be (Other Football) - Yellalee, Apr 16, 11:36:14
        
        True, there was a glimmer of hope and it'd be a terrible way to go down (Other Football) - megson, Apr 16, 11:40:24
        
        ha true, like a pub trivia quiz answer (n/m) (Other Football) - Chris Peacock, Apr 16, 21:30:33
        
        Mind you, an interestung question for the lawyers amongst us is (Other Football) - Jim, Apr 16, 10:34:36
        
        How about promoted teams? If PL clubs vote to relegate the bottom 3, who decides which 3 (Other Football) - WestYorksCanary, Apr 16, 11:09:16
        
        Gut feel is no claim (Other Football) - CWC, Apr 16, 10:54:27
        
        In those circumstances wouldn’t ... (Other Football) - loz, Apr 16, 11:00:19
        
        all apart from the EFL clubs that miss out (Other Football) - CWC, Apr 16, 11:07:43
        
        I agree with you that it all needs to be sorted out together which is why (Other Football) - Jim, Apr 16, 11:23:58
        
        But those clubs are probably less inclined ... (Other Football) - loz, Apr 16, 11:15:10
        
        on the other hand they've less to lose (Other Football) - CWC, Apr 16, 11:28:42
        
        Also a bit harder for them to prove loss I would say (Other Football) - Jim, Apr 16, 11:25:32
        
        take the tables as they are currently as if it is the end of the season (Other Football) - Jumbo1, Apr 16, 11:37:38

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