You should read posts properly

Where have I said anyone should withdraw support for the team?

What I am saying is that this season there was a significant disconnect between the fans and the board/club caused (in my opinion) largely by the way the board dealt with the Alex Neil situation coupled with the disastrous timing of that Times interview. This manifested itself in a lot of fans feeling disenfranchised, that their views didn't matter and essentially pretty lacking in hope in terms of our prospects this season and in the future which in turn has meant that the atmosphere amongst the fan base generally has been very flat. You can see this just by talking to many, many longstanding supporters who at times this season have felt as low about their club as they can recall, including during times when we were genuinely sh*t. The fact is that no crowd, anywhere in the country will be at their best when many are feeling like that and indeed at many other clubs people just wouldn't have turned up.

Yes demographics are changing and yes ticket prices don't help the atmosphere (and at the start of the season there was probably also a bit of complacency) and yes modern football and the highly paid players also breeds a disconnect but fundamentally that's why I think the atmosphere at Carrow Road has been flat for large parts of this season.

The only thing I would sometimes criticise our fan base for is being a bit too happy clappy and a bit too patient at times which allows the board to get away with not making/delaying important decisions that they need to make sooner.

I do not think that blame should be passed to the fans for the way the team has performed this season and I don't like the implication it is somehow our fault that things have not gone well (our record at Carrow Road is not the problem anyway - its very good), just in the same way I didn't like the way Neil hung the players out to dry in his last few weeks and started to try and shift the blame entirely onto them. The board and the manager are the ones who have c**ked up the last two seasons not 26,000 fans who put hundreds and thousands of pounds into the club. Could some of the crowd shout a bit more - yes they could and I hope they do next season. I am sure that they will because next season will bring fresh hope, particularly is Mr Webber does his job properly this summer - lets wait and see if he does. I hope he does well and I like some of the things he is saying a lot but in reality he is as unproven and inexperienced as Neil was and has a lot to prove himself as well.

Posted By: Jim on April 25th 2017 at 10:27:41

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Just read ACN article. Webber comes across excellent in my view couple of great bits; (NCFC) - walksie, Apr 25, 07:45:54
- There are casual tickets in the Barclay aren't there? (NCFC) - norway, Apr 25, 08:19:33
  - I agree. My Dad bless him really struggles at away games (NCFC) - Azteca, Apr 25, 09:04:45
  - Yes but they're a bit pokey on price which I'm about to go back to next season... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 25, 08:39:57
  - The club should invest in the rail seating for the lower Barclay (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, Apr 25, 08:31:02
    - This would definitely help. (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 25, 08:35:09
      - We should probably wait until it's legal (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Apr 25, 08:43:03
        
        If we put in rail seats .. surely it's legal (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, Apr 25, 09:07:42
        
        Rail seating is not permitted at present, the law must change... (NCFC) - Thomo, Apr 25, 09:26:59
        
        how can this be worse than what currently happens week in week out... (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Apr 25, 10:15:02
        
        make it happen Thomo (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Apr 25, 09:28:43
        
        rail seating seems to be a European innovation so it has no chance (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 25, 09:36:34
        
        Pretty sure that safe standing/rail seating in top 2 tiers in England is against the law (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Apr 25, 09:11:50
        
        cant see itd make much difference they all pretty much stand anyway dont they? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 25, 08:59:38
        
        Exactly. I used to love it in Barclay when every one was standing (NCFC) - CB41, Apr 25, 09:45:38
- i didn't like that element of his interview. Atmosphere at Carrow Road is fine when (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 25, 07:58:57
  - If you think your support of the team has to be earned then NCFC is not in your blood (NCFC) - Dunney, Apr 25, 10:28:23
  - Its not fine though is it? And that kind of attitude is part of the problem (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 25, 08:34:39
    - Sorry caught up at work. This is 100% spot on. (NCFC) - walksie, Apr 25, 10:11:41
    - Which is your other regular username, KJ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 25, 10:02:54
      - Don't have one. Have had others in the past but this is the main one now (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 25, 10:17:46
    - 100% this ^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Dunney, Apr 25, 09:46:16
    - Spot On... (NCFC) - Thomo, Apr 25, 09:19:09
      - Atmosphere is best when the fans think the team is up against it (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 25, 09:29:07
        
        Yea that's a very good point. (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 25, 09:45:23
        
        Have never really understood that last attitude (NCFC) - CWC, Apr 25, 10:53:10
        
        we just need to get a player sent off every game - simples (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Apr 25, 09:52:53
        
        Gentlemen, I think we've found our new head coach ^^^^^ (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 25, 09:56:56
        
        His idea sounds suspiciously like our old manager (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 25, 10:08:32
    - Not my view, an explanation of why its been a bit flat at times this season (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 25, 08:58:58
      - lolf, as if it's a new phenomenon this season! (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 25, 09:47:06
      - Its interesting that you link support for the team to support for the owners (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Apr 25, 09:40:43
        
        You should read posts properly (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 25, 10:27:41
        
        have you read what Stuart Webber actually said properly? (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 25, 10:58:13
        
        Details. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 25, 11:36:33
    - Amazing post. Exactly this. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Apr 25, 08:57:42
    - POTD (n/m) (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Apr 25, 08:56:21
    - YES KJ... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 25, 08:44:46
    - Bang on, its not a new problem at Carra though (NCFC) - megson, Apr 25, 08:41:00
      - ^^^ entut though (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 25, 09:47:38
    - Spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Apr 25, 08:36:26
  - Disagree hudds had a dreadful spell earlier ... (NCFC) - loz, Apr 25, 08:09:35
    - They would, our supporters are about the most patient in the country, thats one of the (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 25, 09:04:41
      - Agree to an extent but what about... (NCFC) - loz, Apr 25, 09:47:09
        
        We probably should be more patient with the Murphy's although (NCFC) - Jim, Apr 25, 10:32:18
  - It's great that he has clearly seen the issues (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, Apr 25, 08:07:51
    - yep, the removal of the crossbar challenge has ruined the atmosphere (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 25, 08:36:00
      - It was humour (n/m) (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, Apr 25, 08:52:35
        
        oh (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 25, 09:00:45
      - My one unfulfilled ambition as a fan is to see XXL do the crossbar challenge (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Apr 25, 08:40:42
        
        I want to see him hang off it (by his hands fwiw) and snap it. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 25, 08:54:41
      - I miss the crossbar challenge (n/m) (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, Apr 25, 08:38:06
        
        i was there when kenton was beaten by a little gurl (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 25, 08:54:54
        
        i was there when IED tried to kick a ball (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Apr 25, 09:52:11
        
        I did it scored 3 peaches!, son won £100 and had his picture in the EDP opening his N&P (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Apr 25, 09:55:20

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