You do realise we have sold two of our best players…

Since Wagner and are now operating on post parachute payments budgets ?

He has observed many of those players all pre season. Ultimately if they are unlikely to be good enough why hold on to them.

Knapper signed Mahovo as a Thorup style player from Notts County. His coaching looks to have improved him to such an extent he can be a credible first team option next season.

Of course I want us to win games and have shots on target but I also recognise there is a bigger picture and our current situation is multi faceted. I guess I just can’t fathom why you detest the current regime so much .

Posted By: loz on January 23rd 2025 at 13:07:27

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Bit baffled people are grumpy with JHT (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 23, 11:23:57
- You’re a bit baffled why people are grumpy about a coach who’s not bothered if we have a (NCFC) - Mickdundee, Jan 23, 13:42:34
  - I'm baffled by that sentence (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 23, 13:43:13
- A lot of the problem is that nowadays people want immediate results (NCFC) - Saucerer, Jan 23, 12:20:31
  - fwiw I detected no anti-JHT sentiment in the ground (NCFC) - dr fanta, Jan 23, 13:00:29
  - We also all thought Vrancic and Stiepi were shit (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 12:46:35
    - Stiepi was really very shit at full back....remember the few games he had there early on? (n/m) (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Jan 23, 13:43:35
      - He was very funny there though (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 13:44:43
    - You said last night Doyle was shit (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 23, 12:54:24
      - Haha, Ok here's a sober qualification (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 13:01:38
        
        He's a far, far better defender than Cordoba. (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Jan 23, 15:05:40
        
        Cumbersome (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 23, 13:45:42
        
        Yes, that's a good word (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 13:47:19
        
        He got done for pace by DAN JAMES!!! (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 23, 14:36:28
        
        He gets done for pace by a lot of players (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 23, 16:13:13
        
        Yes this is why he became a liability at full back. Teams clocked his lack of pace (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Jan 23, 16:42:58
    - *anything can happen... (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 12:49:04
- There's lots of things at play here (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jan 23, 12:07:50
  - He is improving young players … (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 12:26:23
    - Fisher has improvee (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 12:42:45
      - Doyle's trajectory seems to be declining (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 23, 13:11:32
    - This time last year you were (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jan 23, 12:35:32
      - He is exposing young players though isn’t he … (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 12:40:40
        
        Do I have to repeat this? (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jan 23, 12:52:16
        
        You do realise we have sold two of our best players… (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 13:07:27
        
        Where do I start? (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jan 23, 13:38:47
        
        I don’t think anyone hated Wagner … (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 14:07:22
        
        No, just EVERY TIME we went a goal down you'd post 'Wagner out' (NCFC) - seminated_woolly, Jan 23, 18:15:35
        
        Fixating on one particular match (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jan 23, 14:18:50
        
        Well we clearly aren’t going to agree on this.. (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 14:30:16
        
        That said, his Hudders side were great when they demolished us at Carrow Rud (NCFC) - JD3, Jan 23, 14:47:28
        
        Telling that he’s still out of work (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 15:20:57
        
        We have no idea what offers he may have had,l/turned down (NCFC) - seminated_woolly, Jan 23, 18:12:48
        
        childish name-calling is such a drag, right? (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jan 23, 14:47:20
        
        Well (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 15:19:51
        
        Slack jawed is grossly more offensive than cock (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 15:20:07
        
        You'd better list insults in order of acceptability then (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jan 23, 16:25:52
        
        Fair to say Mahovo was getting good reviews from U21 games (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 13:40:38
    - People say these things with zero evidence. (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 12:30:57
  - My issue is saying one thing and doing another. (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 12:24:41
  - Not seen anyone saying get rid tbh (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 23, 12:08:47
- Hard to judge things at the moment isnt it? (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Jan 23, 12:02:09
  - The players who kicked on in Farke's second season (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 12:09:14
    - We also got most of them for nothing... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 12:26:07
      - Did we ? (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 12:28:14
        
        I posted our spending last night. (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 12:33:42
        
        I wonder rely on transfermark as an accurate source … (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 12:42:19
        
        Yeh who needs facts ...just ignore the ones that you don't agree with. (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 13:02:44
        
        Stupid argument. (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 13:23:53
        
        It's not a "stupid argument", it's a "fact". We are 16th on net spend. (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 23, 13:27:54
        
        "Whether any of this matters that much can be debated -" (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 13:36:52
        
        Because they have parachute payments . Are you ok ?? (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 13:42:15
        
        This entire argument has been created by you and you alone (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 23, 13:41:58
        
        Look out Norway. He'll post a GIF in a moment. That'll show you. (n/m) (NCFC) - Pixelman, Jan 23, 14:36:35
        
        😂 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 23, 14:38:02
        
        I can't be sure, but I think he's saying (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 13:45:43
        
        Yes he is (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 23, 14:02:27
        
        And also worth bearing in mind that 25% of this fabled £30m has been spent on someone who (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 23, 14:40:47
        
        We kept high value players because we had parachute payments … (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 13:27:52
        
        It depends if you are presenting facts simply to suit your argument (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 23, 13:06:49
        
        This... (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 13:25:53
        
        I also don’t think it’s correct we made more in sales in 2018… (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 13:17:40
        
        Net sales.... You are the one who wanted to go there (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 13:29:02
        
        And again no… (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 13:31:18
        
        No money for Rowe yet, he's on loan with an obligation to buy (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 13:20:32
        
        Well… (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 13:23:00
        
        They're probably all fees including various add ons (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 13:26:53
        
        Indeed but they were widely reported at the time … (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 13:29:26
        
        Sara looks quite likely, playing every game, in Europe and winning the league (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 13:33:26
        
        If payments were due for Champs Lge League phase (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Jan 23, 13:45:46
        
        Ha, yes (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 13:46:11
        
        No but extras for winning league and qualifying for champions league (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 13:34:36
        
        But your argument stinks... (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 13:41:39
        
        Teams with parachute payments at top shock 😮 (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 13:59:31
- IMHO lots of red flags. (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 11:51:09
  - He’s correct to a point. Getting into good areas is much better than shots on target (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Jan 23, 14:04:49
  - The biggest spenders thing is a bit of an anomaly isn’t it … (NCFC) - loz, Jan 23, 12:29:13
    - See my answer below, you are talking Bollocks... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 13:05:41
    - Surely usac isn’t ignoring net spend? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 23, 12:36:34
  - What’s your mood like with JHT? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 23, 11:57:20
- Think people are disappointed that we barely laid a glove on them (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Jan 23, 11:50:52
- I'll keep the faith with JHT (NCFC) - 51eve, Jan 23, 11:44:04
- Aren't we by admission (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Jan 23, 11:33:56
  - No, no, no. We can't have sensible posts like this... everything and (NCFC) - Pixelman, Jan 23, 14:49:23
    - I should clarify (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Jan 23, 16:16:16
      - dr fanta is the hairo we all need in the stands right now...🦸 (n/m) (NCFC) - DJ Ginga, Jan 24, 01:13:58
  - I think now the parachute money is long gone (NCFC) - CauldRon, Jan 23, 11:42:27
- Surely these players must have been identified by JHT though (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 23, 11:31:05
  - Schwartau, Slimane and Marcondes for sure (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 11:31:54
- I think most people agree with you tbf (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 23, 11:26:07
  - Only usac seems grumpy with him tbh (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 23, 11:26:53
    - My Haterz are obsessed. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 11:55:13
    - Don't think he's grumpy, just simply raising valid questions (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 23, 11:33:52
      - Nobody’s grumpy hurrah! (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 23, 11:45:35
        
        Arnt you questioning the tactics here (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 23, 12:03:12
        
        Of course but I’m not grumpy about it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 23, 12:04:40

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