Are they though?
They only reflect probabilities, they don't dictate outcomes. If the odds on outcome X are as low as 1.2 with all other outcomes at odds of (say) 10 or more, you might think "well that's a sure thing then" but it isn't, it just means that if you run the same election (or whatever) 100 times (say), roughly 83-ish times outcome X will occur. Variance is A Thing - but as you run that election a thousand or a millon times it "should" get closer to that roughly 83% chance.
Of course in the real world every election is only run once. So it's not possible to evaluate with precision how efficient/accurate the markets are for any one election.
Even if something has a 95% chance of happening, on average if you try to make it happen twenty times, you will fail once.
However in general the political betting markets do a bloody good job and are generally really useful indicators. They fall down when the market doesn't have a lot of money in it or with "wierdness" like the Reform votes recently (because % support does not translate well to # seats under our electoral system, especially round the 10-20% support mark).
I do think it's interesting how all the polls and prognosticators reckoned Labour had a 20%+ lead over the Tories whereas on the night it was more like 10% - the models are supposed to account for "shy Tories" and the like but this suggests, well, they don't!
Posted By: Old Man on July 12th 2024 at 12:32:05
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- Where the real world decisions are made.... (General Chat) - usacanary, Jul 12, 15:09:22
- the political betting markets are often wrong... (General Chat) - KevinBond, Jul 12, 11:34:47
- Are they though? (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 12, 12:32:05
- Polling suffers from sample sizes. (General Chat) - usacanary, Jul 12, 15:54:10
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- Al markets get it ‘wrong’ (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jul 12, 11:36:44
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- I take your point (General Chat) - norwaay, Jul 12, 14:55:29
- The mistake was keeping Harris on the ticket (General Chat) - CWC, Jul 12, 14:04:35
- *They're* (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jul 12, 11:29:03
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