You do have to question what any of these England coaches actually do to earn their money

I don;t see many players who massively improve under their guidance, indeed they often start off well and then fade away due to consistent technical or "application" issues.

Catching is something a coach should be able to practice. The approach bowling to tail enders has been sh*t for 3 years yet only after Lords did Root acknolwedge he "got it wrong."

Who on the coaching staff is taking thse guys (root included) aside between games and analysing and working on this sort of stuff with them because there is not much evidence of players being improved. We generally rely on a bit of brilliance from Root, Anderson or Broad.

Posted By: Jim on September 6th 2021 at 17:15:40

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FFS I thought this was a great wicket to bat on? (n/m) (Other Sports) - loz, Sep 6, 14:31:27
- India are just better than us (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Sep 6, 16:33:00
  - Kohli is a much better captain, and a lot of it stems from there. (n/m) (Other Sports) - megson, Sep 6, 16:49:07
    - dont agree with that. Their players are better. (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 16:57:06
      - I did say "a lot of it" I wasn't necessarily disagreeing! (Other Sports) - megson, Sep 6, 17:09:19
  - Fine margins. If we could catch and show a bit more composure this would be very close (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 16:39:43
    - More so the first one, yeah (Other Sports) - jamesward, Sep 6, 16:41:26
      - Thing is we keep cycling round the same players (Other Sports) - Under soil heating, Sep 6, 16:57:17
        
        Yep, there are no obvious or easy answers. Stokes makes a big difference (Other Sports) - megson, Sep 6, 17:14:55
        
        exactly this (n/m) (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 16:58:25
        
        (with the exception that I think Pope might end up with a higher average (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 16:59:34
        
        Fully disagree - I blame Silverwood and the selectors (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 17:07:33
        
        You do have to question what any of these England coaches actually do to earn their money (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:15:40
        
        Indeed (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 17:30:15
        
        I don't really understand why you think their average are fucked vs their abilities (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 17:14:31
        
        breaking averages (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 17:42:37
        
        You could say the same for Moeen's bolwing as well (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 18:26:48
        
        He plays for *cough*splutter Worcestershire,!!, (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 18:39:44
        
        Sorry I meant Worcestershire! Got confused as was thinking about the Hundred (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 18:57:04
        
        Hahaha - yep (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 19:13:30
        
        Overton for me is not quite at the right level. Appreciate our options are limited (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:18:56
      - It's a bit like England football teams of the past though (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 16:54:59
      - We should have got more in our first innings and caught Sharma early in their second and (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 16:42:26
        
        "we should have scored more runs" (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 17:01:26
        
        Well what I mean is that Pope, Bairstow and Mo all got themselves out whilst well set to (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:11:49
        
        Pope got 80. Mo and Bairstow just did what they always do. (n/m) (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 17:15:34
        
        Yes and Pope should have got 100 from that position and Bairstow and Mo should have (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:17:31
        
        Totally agree Jim - India bowled brilliantly today but our 1st innings was below par. (Other Sports) - norwaay, Sep 6, 17:23:08
        
        I'd say Bairstow and Mo were more culpable than Pope. I like Pope - we need to stick with (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:28:55
        
        Moeen's first innings dismissal was criminal. (Other Sports) - norwaay, Sep 6, 18:07:09
        
        All "ifs" though. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 16:42:57
- uh-oh (n/m) (Other Sports) - Chris Peacock, Sep 6, 15:30:22
- It is for a team that can bat to start with (n/m) (Other Sports) - Seargent, Sep 6, 15:25:37
  - It was all shaping up for being a really close finish. (n/m) (Other Sports) - DrDublin, Sep 6, 16:20:55

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