Yep, there are no obvious or easy answers. Stokes makes a big difference

I think his presence means the other batsman have more confidence in themselves as a unit, but we do need to find players able to adapt their technique to Test.

That's the issue, all these players can bat, but when a weakness gets exposed they don't seem to be able to adjust for it, or more accurately we don't seem to be able to coach them to adjust it.

That list can all bat, but the higher level has shown some problems, the ECB need to find coaches that can add genuine benefit to these guys and help them improve.
Not enough players get better playing for England.

Posted By: megson on September 6th 2021 at 17:14:55

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FFS I thought this was a great wicket to bat on? (n/m) (Other Sports) - loz, Sep 6, 14:31:27
- India are just better than us (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Sep 6, 16:33:00
  - Kohli is a much better captain, and a lot of it stems from there. (n/m) (Other Sports) - megson, Sep 6, 16:49:07
    - dont agree with that. Their players are better. (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 16:57:06
      - I did say "a lot of it" I wasn't necessarily disagreeing! (Other Sports) - megson, Sep 6, 17:09:19
  - Fine margins. If we could catch and show a bit more composure this would be very close (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 16:39:43
    - More so the first one, yeah (Other Sports) - jamesward, Sep 6, 16:41:26
      - Thing is we keep cycling round the same players (Other Sports) - Under soil heating, Sep 6, 16:57:17
        
        Yep, there are no obvious or easy answers. Stokes makes a big difference (Other Sports) - megson, Sep 6, 17:14:55
        
        exactly this (n/m) (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 16:58:25
        
        (with the exception that I think Pope might end up with a higher average (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 16:59:34
        
        Fully disagree - I blame Silverwood and the selectors (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 17:07:33
        
        You do have to question what any of these England coaches actually do to earn their money (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:15:40
        
        Indeed (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 17:30:15
        
        I don't really understand why you think their average are fucked vs their abilities (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 17:14:31
        
        breaking averages (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 17:42:37
        
        You could say the same for Moeen's bolwing as well (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 18:26:48
        
        He plays for *cough*splutter Worcestershire,!!, (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 18:39:44
        
        Sorry I meant Worcestershire! Got confused as was thinking about the Hundred (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 18:57:04
        
        Hahaha - yep (Other Sports) - Cardiff Canary, Sep 6, 19:13:30
        
        Overton for me is not quite at the right level. Appreciate our options are limited (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:18:56
      - It's a bit like England football teams of the past though (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 16:54:59
      - We should have got more in our first innings and caught Sharma early in their second and (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 16:42:26
        
        "we should have scored more runs" (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 17:01:26
        
        Well what I mean is that Pope, Bairstow and Mo all got themselves out whilst well set to (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:11:49
        
        Pope got 80. Mo and Bairstow just did what they always do. (n/m) (Other Sports) - jampersands, Sep 6, 17:15:34
        
        Yes and Pope should have got 100 from that position and Bairstow and Mo should have (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:17:31
        
        Totally agree Jim - India bowled brilliantly today but our 1st innings was below par. (Other Sports) - norwaay, Sep 6, 17:23:08
        
        I'd say Bairstow and Mo were more culpable than Pope. I like Pope - we need to stick with (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 17:28:55
        
        Moeen's first innings dismissal was criminal. (Other Sports) - norwaay, Sep 6, 18:07:09
        
        All "ifs" though. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Jim, Sep 6, 16:42:57
- uh-oh (n/m) (Other Sports) - Chris Peacock, Sep 6, 15:30:22
- It is for a team that can bat to start with (n/m) (Other Sports) - Seargent, Sep 6, 15:25:37
  - It was all shaping up for being a really close finish. (n/m) (Other Sports) - DrDublin, Sep 6, 16:20:55

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