Genuine question, why do some of you believe so strongly that a permenant prem place

is our natural position as a club, and what we should expect?

I can see it as an aim, but there's nothing in our history, or the history of the Premier League (specifically Prem not top flight) to suggest that any club is established in the Prem outside of the usual 7/8.

In the Championship we currently have:
Leeds, WBA, fulham, Forest, Birmingham, Boro, Stoke among others that will feel as we do, and would argue that they should be 'established' as well.
In league one there is Portsmouth, Bolton and Sunderland and some tin pot outfit down the road.

There are only 20 places in the Prem and AT LEAST 30 clubs that can make a case at least as strong as ours as to why they should be one of them.

Based on that, top 26 seems a fair to challenging 'Par' to set ourselves if I'm honest.
No one is saying we can't be higher, but also to consider relegation as failure would be harsh.

Interested to hear peoples reasons.

Posted By: megson on November 29th 2019 at 08:51:35

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Genuine question, why do some of you believe so strongly that a permenant prem place (NCFC) - megson, Nov 29, 08:51:35
- Thanks for the replies, interesting thoughts (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Nov 29, 10:32:56
- go back to the period between 72-95 (NCFC) - fond, Nov 29, 09:44:33
  - That is fair, but that top flight doesn't exist anymore. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Nov 29, 10:30:20
  - Burnley on their 4th consecutive season (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 29, 10:00:45
  - bournemouth? Behave (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 29, 09:58:28
  - That was before money ruled (NCFC) - duke of york, Nov 29, 09:46:48
    - Would we be able to sign a player of the quality of Martin Peters now? (n/m) (NCFC) - watfordcanary, Nov 29, 18:35:07
    - Fitness probably (n/m) (NCFC) - Trent_Canary, Nov 29, 09:56:05
      - haha (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Nov 29, 09:59:24
- I've never argued that I feel we are entitled to a permanent prem place just that it (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 08:56:59
  - targets need to be achievable though (or is it 'smart'? (NCFC) - CWC, Nov 29, 10:23:00
  - Working to an objective requires strong risk management. (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Nov 29, 09:22:30
  - it is a target (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 29, 09:20:32
  - Not sure I'd want to be an 'established' PL club. Fighting relegation EVERY season... (NCFC) - Brom, Nov 29, 09:15:01
    - Agree. We could have been WHU for the last number of years but we have (NCFC) - Pixelman, Nov 29, 09:23:25
  - This all comes down to what we mean by our 'aim', doesn't it (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 29, 09:13:40
    - Possibly but there is a mentality thing there. Of course we all accept that (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 09:19:13
      - Our target is to win every game we play. (NCFC) - APB, Nov 29, 09:49:47
        
        I understand it but I do not accept that (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 09:54:00
  - Isn't it just realism? (NCFC) - duke of york, Nov 29, 09:12:15
    - Our fan base has been conditioned into accepting failure at the top level. See (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 09:21:17
      - Interesting that Natalie Sawyer, a Brentford fan, was saying on Talksport (NCFC) - duke of york, Nov 29, 09:26:57
        
        I'm not havinga go at Brom, I appreciate that a lot of our fans feel that way but that is (NCFC) - Jim, Nov 29, 09:30:54
        
        If Delia and Michael sold up to some mega rich investors (NCFC) - Trent_Canary, Nov 29, 09:33:33
        
        Lucky for her that Benham threw away their best ever chance! (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 29, 09:28:31
      - I look at Everton as an established Prem league team. (NCFC) - Trent_Canary, Nov 29, 09:22:34
        
        yes. just said similar up there^^^^^^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Pixelman, Nov 29, 09:26:12

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