That doesn't make sense though, they've turned down an election, which may well damage
them, to focus on the No Deal legislation.
Of course they have pushed for an election, that's mainly what an opposition does.
Govt keeps making it easy for them to take that route by ignoring the need to try and build a proper consensus and just appeal to hardline brexit voters.
By the time May did make the offer, it was too far down the road so she couldn't' make any meaningful shift from her established position.
Labour have been clear about the Brexit they want (bear with me here!) but its effectively SM & CU membership, which May ruled out. They are not going to accept a harder Brexit than that, as that has never been their position (despite the ? over what JC actually wants).
So when the only Brexit on offer is harder than they campaigned for, or a No Deal, why would they back either? Having been given no reasonable chance to be involved in the process either, its been made too easy.
Had May bought the House in right at the start, before A50 and agreed something that was at least close to what Labour wanted, she could then have painted them in to a corner.
She didn't, she cut them out and tried to run roughshod. Labour, having been kept out of the process, have defaulted to opposing, as they are the opposition.
Now they've been given some control they are going to make full use of it, who wouldn't?
Posted By: megson on September 5th 2019 at 10:27:32
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- As expected half the papers, worst PM in history (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 5, 08:58:41
- It's unraveling, thread by thread. They don't want to own it (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 11:24:37
- The UK and everyone in it has been officially fucked since (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 10:16:58
- VMT^^ or before when len McClusky chose the wrong Miliband (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Sep 5, 10:29:40
- If only he hadn't eaten that bacon sarnie. Stability over chaos. (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 11:21:30
- VMT^^ or before when len McClusky chose the wrong Miliband (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Sep 5, 10:29:40
- We have a very partizan press for sure. (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 5, 09:06:58
- Thing is its laughable how corbyn and Mcdonnel are doing their (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 09:10:56
- That doesn't make sense though, they've turned down an election, which may well damage (General Chat) - megson, Sep 5, 10:27:32
- Parliament are letting Johnson stew in his own piss soaked nappy (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 10:53:48
- Oh and it wasn't labour that called the 2017 election either. (General Chat) - megson, Sep 5, 10:28:57
- Don;t diagree she didn;t need to do that but the labour position on Brexit (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 10:46:47
- Labour and Tory positions have been stupidly similar (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 11:33:56
- "I think Mp's on all sides should have set aside their rabid desire to seize/hold power an (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 5, 10:53:16
- What is in the national interest is a matter of hotly-disputed opinion (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 5, 10:51:15
- Yes but i at least respect the lib dem position which has been clear throughout (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 11:27:04
- .. however much it ignores a democratic vote at least its clear (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 5, 11:29:10
- An advisory vote (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 12:40:35
- .. however much it ignores a democratic vote at least its clear (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 5, 11:29:10
- Yes but i at least respect the lib dem position which has been clear throughout (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 11:27:04
- Don;t diagree she didn;t need to do that but the labour position on Brexit (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 10:46:47
- You really are swallowing the (English) Sun line (rather than the Scottish one), (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 5, 09:37:28
- maybe that's just Jim's own considered opinion? (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 09:52:40
- I was listening to McDonnell on radio 4 this morning (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 09:37:00
- Voting Lib Dem is a compromise? (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 5, 09:55:18
- GE isn't just about Brexit though is it? (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 10:06:06
- that's about it - or another coalition (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 10:12:32
- GE isn't just about Brexit though is it? (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 10:06:06
- I'm warming to McD (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 09:51:38
- Get a grip, man! (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 10:13:22
- ^^^ Turkey voting for Xmas ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 5, 10:09:22
- taking one for the team (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 10:15:47
- in that case can you give me some money (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 5, 10:55:51
- sure, contact my agent (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 12:45:50
- Ha! But what about the rest of us! (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 10:30:44
- What is the benefit 'for a time at least' to anyone? (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 11:16:31
- If his wages will double then why wouldn't he want it? (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 5, 11:25:46
- It's looking more like 1.5x based on latest report from industry (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 5, 11:18:57
- I'm not a site engineer but similar sort of job but within design (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 5, 11:22:03
- ... (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 5, 11:23:31
- I'm not a site engineer but similar sort of job but within design (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 5, 11:22:03
- Middle are stuffed either way and I care more about the poor (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 10:53:30
- Nobody benefits from general decline (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 11:54:20
- Let's stop no deal then... (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 11:55:51
- Though it never much appealed to me before (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 12:06:15
- it's a Catch 22 (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 12:39:58
- Well, we won't have a 2nd ref w'out a GE first, that's for sure ... (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 14:34:03
- it's a Catch 22 (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 12:39:58
- Though it never much appealed to me before (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 12:06:15
- Let's stop no deal then... (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 11:55:51
- Nobody benefits from general decline (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 11:54:20
- What is the benefit 'for a time at least' to anyone? (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 11:16:31
- in that case can you give me some money (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 5, 10:55:51
- taking one for the team (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 10:15:47
- Voting Lib Dem is a compromise? (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 5, 09:55:18
- Very precisely that (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 09:19:46
- That doesn't make sense though, they've turned down an election, which may well damage (General Chat) - megson, Sep 5, 10:27:32
- Thing is its laughable how corbyn and Mcdonnel are doing their (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 09:10:56
- Half the same paper (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 09:06:10
- ... (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 5, 09:04:42
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