I was listening to McDonnell on radio 4 this morning

and whereas Corbyn always comes over as a bit of an obvious buffoon, it always strikes me that McD is very deeply cunning - there's something chilling about him, which unfortunately I suspect we may not be far from experiencing on a greater scale.

Having said which, BoJo/Cummings are not exactly high on my Xmas card list at the moment. As per Jim, at least I suppose voting Lib Dem is some sort of statement (albeit imperfect) of a desire for compromise/less violent division - if that ground is not found relatively soon, if people lose the ability to debate and discuss and disagree in civilised terms then I really dread to think what the state of politics in this country will be for a generation.

Posted By: paulg on September 5th 2019 at 09:37:00

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As expected half the papers, worst PM in history (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 5, 08:58:41
- It's unraveling, thread by thread. They don't want to own it (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 11:24:37
- The UK and everyone in it has been officially fucked since (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 10:16:58
  - VMT^^ or before when len McClusky chose the wrong Miliband (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Sep 5, 10:29:40
    - If only he hadn't eaten that bacon sarnie. Stability over chaos. (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 11:21:30
- We have a very partizan press for sure. (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 5, 09:06:58
  - Thing is its laughable how corbyn and Mcdonnel are doing their (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 09:10:56
    - That doesn't make sense though, they've turned down an election, which may well damage (General Chat) - megson, Sep 5, 10:27:32
      - Parliament are letting Johnson stew in his own piss soaked nappy (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 10:53:48
      - Oh and it wasn't labour that called the 2017 election either. (General Chat) - megson, Sep 5, 10:28:57
        
        Don;t diagree she didn;t need to do that but the labour position on Brexit (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 10:46:47
        
        Labour and Tory positions have been stupidly similar (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 11:33:56
        
        "I think Mp's on all sides should have set aside their rabid desire to seize/hold power an (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 5, 10:53:16
        
        What is in the national interest is a matter of hotly-disputed opinion (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 5, 10:51:15
        
        Yes but i at least respect the lib dem position which has been clear throughout (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 11:27:04
        
        .. however much it ignores a democratic vote at least its clear (n/m) (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 5, 11:29:10
        
        An advisory vote (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 12:40:35
    - You really are swallowing the (English) Sun line (rather than the Scottish one), (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 5, 09:37:28
      - maybe that's just Jim's own considered opinion? (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 09:52:40
    - I was listening to McDonnell on radio 4 this morning (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 09:37:00
      - Voting Lib Dem is a compromise? (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 5, 09:55:18
        
        GE isn't just about Brexit though is it? (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 10:06:06
        
        that's about it - or another coalition (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 10:12:32
      - I'm warming to McD (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 09:51:38
        
        Get a grip, man! (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 10:13:22
        
        ^^^ Turkey voting for Xmas ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 5, 10:09:22
        
        taking one for the team (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 10:15:47
        
        in that case can you give me some money (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 5, 10:55:51
        
        sure, contact my agent (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 12:45:50
        
        Ha! But what about the rest of us! (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 10:30:44
        
        What is the benefit 'for a time at least' to anyone? (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 5, 11:16:31
        
        If his wages will double then why wouldn't he want it? (General Chat) - KetteringRyu, Sep 5, 11:25:46
        
        It's looking more like 1.5x based on latest report from industry (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 5, 11:18:57
        
        I'm not a site engineer but similar sort of job but within design (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 5, 11:22:03
        
        ... (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Sep 5, 11:23:31
        
        Middle are stuffed either way and I care more about the poor (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 10:53:30
        
        Nobody benefits from general decline (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 11:54:20
        
        Let's stop no deal then... (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 11:55:51
        
        Though it never much appealed to me before (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 12:06:15
        
        it's a Catch 22 (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 5, 12:39:58
        
        Well, we won't have a 2nd ref w'out a GE first, that's for sure ... (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 14:34:03
    - Very precisely that (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 09:19:46
- Half the same paper (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 09:06:10
- ... (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 5, 09:04:42

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