If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You

Have No Brain... Sir Winston Churchill

Not strictly true but makes the point about older people voting Tory

Posted By: ghostof barry butler on May 18th 2017 at 18:55:28

Message Thread

Tory social care plans explained............................... ....... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 17:37:11
- Where does it say sign over your home to a private company? (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 18:56:52
  - How you choose to pay will be up to you (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 19:13:41
    - Yes but you are not "signing your home over to a private company" (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 19:23:38
      - Presumably they will have to have zero assets (apart from their house) before (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, May 18, 19:43:56
        
        I'd imagine it will be combined house and savings wouldn't it? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 19:47:48
        
        I'll try to explain.................. (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 20:03:48
        
        Yes I get that. What is the rule now for "home" social care? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 20:10:10
        
        Home care vists and care homes to be treated as much the same thing.......... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 20:18:17
        
        But at the moment what is the rule for home care visits? (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 20:44:32
        
        As I said, if you have less than about £23,000 you get a contribution. That is graduated (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, May 18, 20:53:47
      - It is equity release in your home to help pay for your social care (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 19:36:38
        
        But why should the state subsidise "social care" for those who can afford to pay for it? (NCFC) - Jim, May 18, 20:07:55
        
        because people have already paid for it via taxation (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 20:19:30
- It's a spectacular shot in the foot from May (NCFC) - Dracula, May 18, 18:34:40
  - Nah, 1 in 6 are over 65 (NCFC) - harry boulders, May 18, 18:41:02
    - Yougov reckons age will be the deciding factor (NCFC) - Dracula, May 18, 18:46:51
      - If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 18:55:28
- Will you give it up after june 8th? (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 18, 18:08:41
- I smell an opportunity for "entrepreneurs" to sell equity release plans to naive old'uns. (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, May 18, 18:05:36
- Ok but you explain this from one of your earlier posts (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 18:04:03
  - Tories want to merge social care and the NHS to become the same thing (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 18:22:42
    - That would be sensible, surely? (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, May 18, 18:34:07
      - no it wouldnt (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 18:36:58
        
        Well to start with (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 18:59:10
        
        that does not say or mean (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 19:03:41
        
        It is merging so that you get treated more at home rather than in a hospital. (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 19:18:46
        
        yes the home care (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 19:25:14
        
        Is it about real treatment or is it about stuff like home-help? (n/m) (NCFC) - harry boulders, May 18, 19:22:25
    - OK where is that written (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, May 18, 18:30:14
- So Larry can you enlighten me how Labour or Libdems will fill the deficit? (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 18, 18:00:37
  - Well.............. (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 18, 18:33:33
    - Ok, though I think the 1k more in tax over 100k is no use. (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 18, 19:52:24
      - somehow doubt that either Ralf, well not to any degree. (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 18, 22:16:40
        
        lolf! righto. put it on the side of a bus, why dontcha (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 18, 22:29:41
      - nah, Brexit will do that (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 18, 20:28:05
  - Firstly, the claim that the Tories will "deal with the deficit" is tripe. They've made (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, May 18, 18:12:56
    - I totally agree the big corps and tax avoidance it's fuckin disgraceful. (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 18, 19:58:46
- That's me voting for the Tories again then - blue army! 😀 (n/m) (NCFC) - Thegelman, May 18, 17:51:28
  - That will cause a swing (n/m) (NCFC) - Gob on a Stick, May 18, 17:58:58

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