But I think there is a bit of a danger in taking that approach

There is a risk that because of who they are and the great job that they do that you automatically side with the doctors and automatically side against the Government when the truth is probably somewhere in between. Whilst I am sure they have genuine concerns over patient care, doctors will also look out for their own interests just as any of us would (and I don't blame them for that).

I do agree with the government that the NHS (in hospitals at least) needs to be full service, 7 days a week and if we are truly to move to that then its probably not financially sustainable to have everyone working weekend shifts getting paid overtime.

Hunt just seems to have gone about it all in a Gove/IDS type blunt, confrontational manner that has caused far more problems than necessary. It really shouldn't be that difficult to devise a system whereby hospitals are better staffed at weekends and doctors are paid fairly in return should it?

Posted By: Jim on February 11th 2016 at 11:58:30

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This here junior doctors contract business (General Chat) - Jim, Feb 11, 11:25:31
- Isn't it just Saturday pay that's the stumbling block (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 11:31:27
  - My very basic understanding of it (although its much more complex than this) (General Chat) - Jim, Feb 11, 11:46:29
    - And look at the state of teaching right now, in terms of supply! (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 12:38:15
  - Who do you trust? Junior Doctor's (Junior is a bit misleading too) or Jermey Hunt? (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Feb 11, 11:37:58
    - But I think there is a bit of a danger in taking that approach (General Chat) - Jim, Feb 11, 11:58:30
      - Plus if you want MORE staff in at weekends, you'll get LESS in during the week. (General Chat) - megson, Feb 11, 12:32:38
        
        And why the doctors have a very valid concern around patient safety (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 12:39:50
      - The NHS is already 7 fucking days. Jesus H Christ (General Chat) - megson, Feb 11, 12:27:16
        
        You're talking to Jim. Jim doesn't have common sense. (n/m) (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Feb 11, 12:50:55
        
        Ignoring your usual tedious dig what part of what i have said does not show (General Chat) - Jim, Feb 11, 13:54:23
    - isnt it a choice between trusting (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 11, 11:49:44
      - There is no choice unless you are a Quack junior, it's not a referendum (General Chat) - Tombs, Feb 11, 11:53:09
      - I think Doctor's are bright enough to read all the detail and make their choice. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Feb 11, 11:50:18
        
        that want my point (General Chat) - CWC, Feb 11, 11:56:31
    - My thoughts exactly. (n/m) (General Chat) - manc_yello, Feb 11, 11:39:54

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