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"Europe?s Muslim population, boosted by large families and immigration, will nearly double, from less than 6% (43 million people) in 2010 to more than 10% (71 million people) in 2050, the forecast estimates"

I don't have the time to find the stats for what Europe's Muslim population was 40 years ago, but I'll bet my mortgage that it wan't 6% of the population.

Europe has, and continuous, to undergo a significant change in its demographic make up. That has consequences if not handled well (and it's safe to say it hasn't always been handled well*).

I think you're leaping to conclusions if you think that someone who points that out has some sort of racist or Daily Mail like agenda. It's a fundamental fact that any discussion about immigration generally, or specific issues like how you tackle fundamentalism and this kind of terrorism cannot skirt around.

(*although perhaps better than how the Sub-Romano Brits handled the Saxon immigration issue, which didn't go so well for the Britons)

Posted By: CWC on November 14th 2015 at 09:50:02

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The scariest aspect is (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 14, 05:38:54
- Not aware (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 14, 09:53:49
  - Corbyns advisor just embarassed himself on Twitter (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Nov 14, 10:57:42
    - It's a fake account (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 11:01:38
      - Proves how easily (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 14, 11:18:40
- Their negotiation strategy can only be described as Lose-Lose (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:05:54
- Thank goodness we are not allowing mass, unchecked immigration into Europe thus (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 07:38:19
  - Terrorist exports in all likelihood far outnumber terrorist imports. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 14, 10:23:13
    - Exports dont blow up Europe.......... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 17:10:57
  - Ah! And there's our first reactionary. (n/m) (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Nov 14, 10:05:06
  - That's possibly one of he most stupid posts I've seen on here. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Nov 14, 08:08:37
  - Time to be united mate. Us (non terrorists) vs them (terrorist cunts) (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:06:55
  - Bit daily mail that Jim (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 14, 08:05:31
  - The refugees are trying to escape these fucknuts Jim, not become them. (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 08:04:31
    - Oh come of it....... its already been proven that........ (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 16:57:57
      - Where is the evidence? Even you use the word 'probably'. (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Nov 14, 17:00:00
        
        Maybe you should read a little more. (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 17:09:55
        
        I'm not denying the stats. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Nov 14, 18:50:32
    - Some are. The point is we have allowed the make up of the continent (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 08:13:36
      - With such warm and open attitudes like yours is it any wonder newcomers struggle to find a (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 08:27:25
        
        ^^^^ doesnt know what racist is........ (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 17:14:16
        
        ^^ this is why it's impossible to have a reasoned discussion about immigration ^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 14, 09:09:55
        
        ^^ this is why Wrath has gone to shit (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 09:22:54
        
        You post a lot here so you might be part of the problem. (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 16:52:39
        
        Really OG? I expect better from you. The make up of the European continent? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 09:20:18
        
        Guardian link: (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 14, 09:50:02
        
        what was the % Muslim population before the Crusades? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 17:17:15
        
        The Guardian is notoriously full of "ill informed racist ukip bullshit", of course (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 14, 09:57:27
        
        Yes it is. (n/m) (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 14, 09:58:38
        
        The Guardian releases stock 'Far Right' article day after the attack (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:10:29
        
        Ralf, there's an important and interesting discussion to be had about immigration and (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 14, 09:35:21
        
        "allowed the make up of the continent to be changed hugely" (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 17:13:19
        
        quite a few people you are in favor of welcoming with open arms........ (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 17:17:14
        
        Have to say I agree OG. Ralf all this stuff about integration and multiculturalism (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 14, 11:06:13
        
        That includes traditional English culture too. We also need to do our bit and want to (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 19:44:43
      - There are loads of Brits in Dubai. This could have easily taken place there (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:18:17
        
        I've not said its all about that our foreign policy and Tony Blair (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 08:21:37
        
        I think our gung ho foreign 'policy' in the past is the most significant factor (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:29:25
        
        Don't disagree in terms of the ultimate source of it all (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 08:41:42
        
        Which urban communities are these? Not looking for a fight, just genuinely interested/ (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:00:11
        
        Parts of East London, parts of Luton, areas of Birmingham, Parts of Burnley a few that spring to (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 10:08:16
        
        and of course it goes deeper and wider (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 14, 10:31:44
        
        People will always stick to what they know though, feel safer with their own tribe (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:36:52
        
        *life (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:37:05
        
        So basically poor run down areas where no one local wanted to live? (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:14:11
        
        That's just not true (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:17:42
        
        Isn't 'white flight' also the opposite of integrating then? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:27:49
        
        Bit of both. You can't blame the incoming migrants for sticking together (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 11:13:39
        
        Yes... Human Nature it would seem (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:40:28
        
        Brother in law lived in Leicester in the 50's/60's and said street he lived in (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 14, 11:40:26
        
        They support each other. Perhaps we could learn a thing or too from them... (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 19:45:48
        
        *two (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 20:36:43
        
        I visited Toronto a few years back and as much as I enjoyed my stay there (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:26:17
        
        Agreed but they don't try to destroy our way of life do they. (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 14, 11:42:13
        
        some of them appear to be trying to do just that (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 12:29:00
        
        it is difficult to argue with the fact many migrant communities fail to integrate (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:12:30
        
        Poorly integrated communities. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:05:33
        
        *wherever (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:18:57
- The people who did that haven't evolved enough to speak anyway. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 14, 06:41:19

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