Ralf, there's an important and interesting discussion to be had about immigration and

integration

About poverty, about multi-culturism, about the conundrum of whether tolerant societies should tolerate intolerance, about state surveillance

And so on

But this isn't the place to have it, and you're not (I'm afraid) the man to have it with, because you are rather too ready to leap in with accusations of racism. So I'm not going there with you.

Posted By: Old Git on November 14th 2015 at 09:35:21

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The scariest aspect is (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 14, 05:38:54
- Not aware (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 14, 09:53:49
  - Corbyns advisor just embarassed himself on Twitter (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Nov 14, 10:57:42
    - It's a fake account (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 14, 11:01:38
      - Proves how easily (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 14, 11:18:40
- Their negotiation strategy can only be described as Lose-Lose (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:05:54
- Thank goodness we are not allowing mass, unchecked immigration into Europe thus (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 07:38:19
  - Terrorist exports in all likelihood far outnumber terrorist imports. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 14, 10:23:13
    - Exports dont blow up Europe.......... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 17:10:57
  - Ah! And there's our first reactionary. (n/m) (General Chat) - I Am Hoot, Nov 14, 10:05:06
  - That's possibly one of he most stupid posts I've seen on here. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Nov 14, 08:08:37
  - Time to be united mate. Us (non terrorists) vs them (terrorist cunts) (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:06:55
  - Bit daily mail that Jim (n/m) (General Chat) - earlydoors, Nov 14, 08:05:31
  - The refugees are trying to escape these fucknuts Jim, not become them. (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 08:04:31
    - Oh come of it....... its already been proven that........ (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 16:57:57
      - Where is the evidence? Even you use the word 'probably'. (n/m) (General Chat) - avenging canary, Nov 14, 17:00:00
        
        Maybe you should read a little more. (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 17:09:55
        
        I'm not denying the stats. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Nov 14, 18:50:32
    - Some are. The point is we have allowed the make up of the continent (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 08:13:36
      - With such warm and open attitudes like yours is it any wonder newcomers struggle to find a (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 08:27:25
        
        ^^^^ doesnt know what racist is........ (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 17:14:16
        
        ^^ this is why it's impossible to have a reasoned discussion about immigration ^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 14, 09:09:55
        
        ^^ this is why Wrath has gone to shit (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 09:22:54
        
        You post a lot here so you might be part of the problem. (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 16:52:39
        
        Really OG? I expect better from you. The make up of the European continent? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 09:20:18
        
        Guardian link: (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 14, 09:50:02
        
        what was the % Muslim population before the Crusades? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 17:17:15
        
        The Guardian is notoriously full of "ill informed racist ukip bullshit", of course (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 14, 09:57:27
        
        Yes it is. (n/m) (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Nov 14, 09:58:38
        
        The Guardian releases stock 'Far Right' article day after the attack (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:10:29
        
        Ralf, there's an important and interesting discussion to be had about immigration and (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 14, 09:35:21
        
        "allowed the make up of the continent to be changed hugely" (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 14, 17:13:19
        
        quite a few people you are in favor of welcoming with open arms........ (General Chat) - usacanary, Nov 14, 17:17:14
        
        Have to say I agree OG. Ralf all this stuff about integration and multiculturalism (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 14, 11:06:13
        
        That includes traditional English culture too. We also need to do our bit and want to (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 19:44:43
      - There are loads of Brits in Dubai. This could have easily taken place there (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:18:17
        
        I've not said its all about that our foreign policy and Tony Blair (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 08:21:37
        
        I think our gung ho foreign 'policy' in the past is the most significant factor (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:29:25
        
        Don't disagree in terms of the ultimate source of it all (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 08:41:42
        
        Which urban communities are these? Not looking for a fight, just genuinely interested/ (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:00:11
        
        Parts of East London, parts of Luton, areas of Birmingham, Parts of Burnley a few that spring to (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 10:08:16
        
        and of course it goes deeper and wider (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 14, 10:31:44
        
        People will always stick to what they know though, feel safer with their own tribe (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:36:52
        
        *life (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:37:05
        
        So basically poor run down areas where no one local wanted to live? (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:14:11
        
        That's just not true (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:17:42
        
        Isn't 'white flight' also the opposite of integrating then? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:27:49
        
        Bit of both. You can't blame the incoming migrants for sticking together (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 14, 11:13:39
        
        Yes... Human Nature it would seem (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:40:28
        
        Brother in law lived in Leicester in the 50's/60's and said street he lived in (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 14, 11:40:26
        
        They support each other. Perhaps we could learn a thing or too from them... (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 19:45:48
        
        *two (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 20:36:43
        
        I visited Toronto a few years back and as much as I enjoyed my stay there (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 10:26:17
        
        Agreed but they don't try to destroy our way of life do they. (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 14, 11:42:13
        
        some of them appear to be trying to do just that (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 12:29:00
        
        it is difficult to argue with the fact many migrant communities fail to integrate (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:12:30
        
        Poorly integrated communities. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Nov 14, 10:05:33
        
        *wherever (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Nov 14, 08:18:57
- The people who did that haven't evolved enough to speak anyway. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Nov 14, 06:41:19

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