First thing to remember

...is the press and protesters cherry pick what makes headlines. As do politicians when it suits them for their argument.

So I take everything with a large dash of salt. Always.

Posted By: Jester on June 25th 2015 at 13:43:31

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Serious question re these benefit cuts/disability allowance etc (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 11:53:07
- One thing is... (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 12:53:17
  - You're assuming that every school leaver that signs on and claims housing benefit (NCFC) - megson, Jun 25, 13:52:52
    - I said I didn't assume anything (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 14:06:15
      - Which is an assumption on your part that they have a family capable of supporting them (NCFC) - megson, Jun 25, 15:09:00
        
        Not on my part, as I mentioned, (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 16:53:50
  - Nor do I which was why I asked the question. I just find it hard to (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 13:07:37
    - First thing to remember (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 13:43:31
- one of the arguments against means testing for the winter fuel allowance (NCFC) - phrankin, Jun 25, 12:12:22
  - that's the reason given for the child benefit pallaver (NCFC) - CWC, Jun 25, 13:42:15
- wages (n/m) (NCFC) - Dave in France, Jun 25, 12:08:53
  - Too many people don't want them (NCFC) - Highlander, Jun 25, 13:42:17
- I beliebe one argument for not means testing benefits (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Jun 25, 12:03:14
  - Winter fuel allowance (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 12:28:55
    - I just give mine to Age Concern. Guess there will come a time when (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 25, 12:48:44
    - ^this^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 25, 12:31:16
  - You see i would take completely the opposite approach to that (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 12:08:47
    - Child benefit IS means-tested (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 25, 13:05:42
      - Yes it is but they could do it much better/more effectively. The decision to (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 13:09:46
        
        yes, that's what happens when you means-test things (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 25, 13:12:32
    - Thats the difference between (old) Labour and Tory (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Jun 25, 12:16:39
    - ok, but if it's means tested.... (NCFC) - Dave in France, Jun 25, 12:15:42
      - But does means tested mean you have to "apply" for them? (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 12:23:09
        
        Have to pay child benefit back with a 'tax charge' (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Jun 25, 12:40:30
        
        Can see that but would think we are in a day and age now where (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 12:45:54
    - Not saying either opinion is right by the way. We all feel differently on these things (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 12:10:05
  - Justin Belieber (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 25, 12:04:37
- because the Tories are evil (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 25, 11:55:04

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