You see i would take completely the opposite approach to that

I would resent it if you put my taxes up. I already feel i pay more than my fair share in terms of what i take out of the system.

Surely if someone needs benefits but doesn't bother applying for them then they only have themselves to blame and need to take responsibility for themselves.

I appreciate there would be an initial costs involved with means testing more things and no system is perfect so there would be some cases of unfairness (but resolvable if you have a decent appeal system) but surely they could save millions just in terms of the child benefit (or more accurately sorting out the currently useless means testing approach which still sees lots of families getting child benefit despite having income in excess of ?50k a year), the winter fuel allowance and i'm sure certain other benefits.

Posted By: Jim on June 25th 2015 at 12:08:47

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Serious question re these benefit cuts/disability allowance etc (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 11:53:07
- One thing is... (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 12:53:17
  - You're assuming that every school leaver that signs on and claims housing benefit (NCFC) - megson, Jun 25, 13:52:52
    - I said I didn't assume anything (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 14:06:15
      - Which is an assumption on your part that they have a family capable of supporting them (NCFC) - megson, Jun 25, 15:09:00
        
        Not on my part, as I mentioned, (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 16:53:50
  - Nor do I which was why I asked the question. I just find it hard to (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 13:07:37
    - First thing to remember (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 13:43:31
- one of the arguments against means testing for the winter fuel allowance (NCFC) - phrankin, Jun 25, 12:12:22
  - that's the reason given for the child benefit pallaver (NCFC) - CWC, Jun 25, 13:42:15
- wages (n/m) (NCFC) - Dave in France, Jun 25, 12:08:53
  - Too many people don't want them (NCFC) - Highlander, Jun 25, 13:42:17
- I beliebe one argument for not means testing benefits (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Jun 25, 12:03:14
  - Winter fuel allowance (NCFC) - Jester, Jun 25, 12:28:55
    - I just give mine to Age Concern. Guess there will come a time when (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 25, 12:48:44
    - ^this^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 25, 12:31:16
  - You see i would take completely the opposite approach to that (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 12:08:47
    - Child benefit IS means-tested (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 25, 13:05:42
      - Yes it is but they could do it much better/more effectively. The decision to (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 13:09:46
        
        yes, that's what happens when you means-test things (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 25, 13:12:32
    - Thats the difference between (old) Labour and Tory (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Jun 25, 12:16:39
    - ok, but if it's means tested.... (NCFC) - Dave in France, Jun 25, 12:15:42
      - But does means tested mean you have to "apply" for them? (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 12:23:09
        
        Have to pay child benefit back with a 'tax charge' (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Jun 25, 12:40:30
        
        Can see that but would think we are in a day and age now where (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 12:45:54
    - Not saying either opinion is right by the way. We all feel differently on these things (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 25, 12:10:05
  - Justin Belieber (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 25, 12:04:37
- because the Tories are evil (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Jun 25, 11:55:04

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