Our "natural level" is probably a struggling Prem club

Before Sky came along and started chucking money at the Prem (and those at the top of the Prem) many clubs could at least - with a bit of clever trading in the transfer market*, bringing through the odd youngster, an intelligent manager and a bit of luck - actually challenge for the title.

Moreover many clubs are spending vast quantities of cash in the hope that they'll cash in on the CL (or World League?) bonanza eventually. Like the credit derivatives market similarly trading in debt this is unsustainable and will collapse sooner rather than later.

The point is that the game itself is f**ked; not just our club.

* - regarding this, I think the transfer windows also benefits the big clubs as they can afford the big squads necessary to get them between windows. It also tends to push up prices.

Posted By: BerlinCanary on January 16th 2009 at 11:39:22

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Profoundly fed-up (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 16, 11:02:40
- Fair point (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 16, 11:08:10
  - "Shitty League" - never a truer word spoken on WOTB. (n/m) (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 11:12:41
  - Disagree. Apart from the SKY Four, there's three others with the capacity to do so (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:11:01
    - Spurs? You must be joking! (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 16, 11:19:10
      - So what? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:21:10
        
        Our "natural level" is probably a struggling Prem club (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 16, 11:39:22
        
        It's happening all across Europe though (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:43:32
        
        I think we're agreeing mostly... (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 16, 11:53:18
        
        Shirely it's about re-adjusting your goals and ideas of competing (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Jan 16, 11:59:40
        
        Success doesn't have to be instant (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 12:03:44
        
        but they aren't simply standing still (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 16, 12:03:35
        
        Correct. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 12:07:06
        
        So, I find that depressing, (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 16, 11:23:05
    - And look at how much money Villa/Spurs/ManCity (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 16, 11:16:29
    - It is the only way we will ever get back into the Premiership sadly (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 16, 11:16:09
      - How have Hull or West Brom 'whored their arses off'? (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:18:00
        
        aren't Hull trying too though... (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Jan 16, 11:40:44
        
        but thats it isn't it if they fail, they will have made a stupid decision and should have (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Jan 16, 11:51:34
        
        I don't deride them for signing Ashton when we did (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 12:01:31
        
        Calculated gamble with the TV revenue they've earned? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:44:23
        
        by not being in such a parlous state as we are is probably one reason (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 16, 11:20:12
        
        I don't. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:22:03
        
        good (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 16, 11:22:37
        
        Do you not care who they appoint next then? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:23:48
        
        of course I care! Absolutely. (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 16, 11:40:46
        
        They've picked one inexperienced manager (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 16, 11:28:52
        
        If you don't have the money to get someone decent in (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:35:43
        
        I'd agree with you on the Mike Walker/Bruce Rioch points (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 16, 12:09:02
        
        Re: Grant and Roeder (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 12:11:48
        
        well said (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 16, 12:00:21
      - Yep. (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 16, 11:16:59
- How have the following clubs 'paid through the nose to even compete'? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:06:34
  - How many of those clubs are competing at the top of the Prem? (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 16, 11:14:33
    - Fans have the right to expect their club is run in a professional way (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:19:28
    - well this year we have beaten Wolves 5-2 - Brum 1-1 (NCFC) - lovely old job, Jan 16, 11:16:07
      - s'true (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 16, 11:21:07
        
        Very well put (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 16, 11:56:09
        
        yep the romance has gone out of football. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Jan 16, 11:35:21
      - It's just the rest we struggle with! (n/m) (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, Jan 16, 11:17:40
  - Through the nose! (NCFC) - Puppygalore, Jan 16, 11:11:38
    - How many of them are losing money? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 11:13:53
- Creo!!! (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 16, 11:03:50
  - oh, that's harsh! n/m (n/m) (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 16, 11:06:01
    - Sorry, but it's crazy Friday you understand (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 16, 11:08:54

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