Flight 93
I take it you think it was a bunch of CIA agents in false beards and with tea towels on their heads that took it down then?
One thing I cant quite work out. If the US Govt *really* wanted to fake a terrorist plot to blow up the twin towers, to the point of going to the trouble of planting explosives and detonating them, why even bother going through the whole 'plane hi-jack thing? It wouldn't have been the first time Al Quaeda has attacked the WTC with explosives. Why come up with such a far fetched plan? Why attack the Pentagon, why not something a little less crucial to the people planning this crazy scheme?
And it just doesn't make sense in any event. Afghanistan wasn't even on the strategic radar pre-9/11, whereas Iraq was. 9/11 meant that they had to divert resources into fighting the Taliban when the hawks of the administration would much rather have been going after Saddam. If this had been a planned event, a much stronger casus belli would have been made connecting 9/11 to Iraq, and we'd have been there much sooner and with wide international support. It makes no sense for them to have planned this attrocity in order to invade Afghanistan, a country with little to offer the West, and then have to scrabble about looking for flimsy excuses to invade Iraq. 9/11 would have been the clearest, most incontrovertible reason for invading Iraq. They would have had a wordwide 'coalition of the willing', possibly even under a UN mandate. But no, they pin the blame on some godforsaken mountainous country that most people couldnt even have pointed to on a map. Bit of an own goal, dont you think??
And lastly, don't you think that if it had been a US plot rather than Bin Laden's, he might just be protesting his innocence in order to highlight the conspiracy rather than taking the 'praise' for it? Or is he just a CIA stooge, and it was really the CIA behind the USS Cole attack, the East African embassy bombs etc etc?
I really dont understand why people feel spend so much of their time trying to blame the US Govt rather than accepting the reality that terrorist f**kers like Bin Laden get kicks out of killing people on a grand scale.
Does make for some comedy discussions though.
Posted By: CWC on October 15th 2006 at 18:01:47
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- fao walksie, (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 15:25:05
- Flight 93 (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 15, 18:01:47
- you are mistaken to my vview n the matter... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 18:25:28
- Aren't you in Wales now?.. (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 15, 18:31:11
- you are mistaken to my vview n the matter... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 18:25:28
- And what did you think of the NIST FAQ? (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 16:01:15
- NIST have recently mused that Building 7 which is often not talked about was brought... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:44:17
- That's why I mentioned Enron further down, cos tonnes of evidence for that case (General Chat) - pants, Oct 15, 17:03:47
- If they have, they haven't thought to put it on their website (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 16:50:56
- Don't you find it interesting that a 47 storey building collasped into it's own footprint. (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:54:04
- Yes it's interesting; curious even (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 17:01:07
- I suspect you know as much about structural engineering as I do. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:58:03
- Don't you find it interesting that a 47 storey building collasped into it's own footprint. (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:54:04
- why bother? (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 16:45:14
- Yes you're right... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:46:17
- As a youngster he was a decent player, but (n/m) (General Chat) - the Tilt Man, Apr 1, 20:17:41
- Because you are a credulous fool. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:51:58
- Overwhelming evidence of physics... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:59:14
- no, i'm saying why bother (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 16:51:13
- Well, quite. But you're missing the point ... (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 16:55:07
- Of course it will... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:01:00
- "Denial's a powerful thing". Oh, the irony. (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 17:03:04
- Do me a favour... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:06:11
- "Denial's a powerful thing". Oh, the irony. (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 17:03:04
- lol (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 16:57:17
- Apparently (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 16:57:58
- listen to it properly. (n/m) (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 17:08:00
- Apparently (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 16:57:58
- Of course it will... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:01:00
- Well, quite. But you're missing the point ... (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 16:55:07
- Yes you're right... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:46:17
- she said the the building was collapsing quicker (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:08:15
- Well, no reason. It's not possible. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:11:41
- Haha. Indeed "The building fell faster than gravity" (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:03:34
- They say it, but they don't really mean it (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 16:16:28
- NIST have recently mused that Building 7 which is often not talked about was brought... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:44:17
- A healthy dose of scepticism wouldn't do you any harm. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 15:53:01
- i have seen video's for both side... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 15:57:13
- well... (General Chat) - walksie, Oct 15, 15:45:24
- Have a look around on the net for April Gallop (General Chat) - pants, Oct 15, 16:00:56
- re Saudi/Afghanistan (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 15, 17:06:15
- There were plans on the white house desk to invade Afghanistan in July 2001... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 20:50:42
- Foaming left wing nutter (n/m) (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 21:26:32
- No, actually, it's more a case of (General Chat) - pants, Oct 15, 18:43:24
- You truely are a first class muppet aren't you? (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 20:52:31
- Read some history books? (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 20:59:58
- I'd like to discuss World War II (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 21:35:27
- You're an idiot! If I remember rightly the soviets fought beside... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 21:52:18
- Complete folly - you are a first class idoit!!!!!!!!! (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 21:58:28
- No it isn't at all you stupid mong... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 22:31:18
- "the US went in a different direction" (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 22:37:22
- Read it and read it carefully... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 22:42:23
- Okay... (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 22:49:23
- Thats an official US government document... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 22:54:02
- Okay... (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 22:49:23
- Read it and read it carefully... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 22:42:23
- "the US went in a different direction" (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 22:37:22
- No it isn't at all you stupid mong... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 22:31:18
- Complete folly - you are a first class idoit!!!!!!!!! (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 21:58:28
- You're an idiot! If I remember rightly the soviets fought beside... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 21:52:18
- I'd like to discuss World War II (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 21:35:27
- Read some history books? (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 20:59:58
- You truely are a first class muppet aren't you? (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 20:52:31
- lol (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Oct 15, 17:11:43
- There were plans on the white house desk to invade Afghanistan in July 2001... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 20:50:42
- Hard to tell where your quote ends and your opinion starts (if at all) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 16:11:40
- re Saudi/Afghanistan (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 15, 17:06:15
- i think, as i posted yesterday and today... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 15:53:52
- You are a first class twat (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 20:55:03
- The left? Dear oh dear... (n/m) (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 20:58:09
- So you think America are responsible for 9/11? (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 21:25:48
- Nut cases in Afghanistan? (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 21:57:58
- why are you so determined to support the Taliban and Al-Quieda? (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 22:06:35
- Dear oh dear the fear has really got to you hasn't it. (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 22:33:21
- Then maybe in the next attack (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 22:43:07
- Dear oh dear the fear has really got to you hasn't it. (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 22:33:21
- why are you so determined to support the Taliban and Al-Quieda? (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 22:06:35
- Nut cases in Afghanistan? (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 21:57:58
- So you think America are responsible for 9/11? (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 21:25:48
- The left? Dear oh dear... (n/m) (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 20:58:09
- How many people would it take orchestrate and carry out such a plan? (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 15:57:13
- why so many? it was planned over the course a couple of years... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:03:20
- ***Telex report***Pharmaceutical Psychosis***stop***Patient Unbalanced***end (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 15, 18:42:49
- Well said Fierce Panda - 100% correct - Alan is a twat (n/m) (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 20:55:45
- So you've taken all these "facts" at face value. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:06:56
- i question them... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:10:29
- Fantastic theories require fantastic proof (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:17:58
- You do understand that the official story of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:40:00
- you do realise that... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 17:13:24
- there is proof... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:31:26
- That's *not* proof. That's called anecdotal evidence from a handful of people. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:35:39
- go the this link... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:43:40
- I assume you use the same logic when talking about the eyewitnesses at the pentagon... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:43:02
- A fucking great hole in the building and a large missing airplane (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:45:29
- U.S. Army General Says Flight 77 Did Not Hit Pentagon (General Chat) - David Icke, Oct 15, 17:32:22
- A great big hole? (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:49:17
- I wondered when the smaller Pentagon hole would be brought up (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 17:08:35
- The fuselage that incinerated but left traces of DNA... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:11:25
- Gosh, so when they were faking it, they didn't make the hole big enough! (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:55:07
- Maybe you should ask the US government... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:04:18
- why say their is video evidence if there isn't? (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:06:52
- Eh? There isn't video evidence of flight 77 hitting the pentagon? (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:09:04
- No (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:11:55
- i found it very odd (General Chat) - SCC 26, Oct 15, 17:15:03
- It's called Frames per Second. CCTV cameras have much fewer than normal cameras (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 17:48:29
- Look, its a plane, honest! (General Chat) - David Icke, Oct 15, 18:01:59
- yeah i know what it is (General Chat) - SCC 26, Oct 15, 17:53:30
- It's called Frames per Second. CCTV cameras have much fewer than normal cameras (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 17:48:29
- Christ almighty... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:14:35
- why do they have to? (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:23:00
- oh dear (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Oct 15, 17:24:59
- shut it you CUNTER (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:27:00
- Is that a serious question? (n/m) (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:24:09
- yes (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:26:50
- You don't believe releasing a video which would put to an end (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:29:23
- I don't believe governments pander to conspiracy theorists (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:40:22
- It isn't my job to answer where the people went... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 20:38:30
- .....? (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 18:01:35
- I don't believe governments pander to conspiracy theorists (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:40:22
- oh dear (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Oct 15, 17:27:51
- You don't believe releasing a video which would put to an end (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:29:23
- yes (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:26:50
- oh dear (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Oct 15, 17:24:59
- why do they have to? (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:23:00
- i found it very odd (General Chat) - SCC 26, Oct 15, 17:15:03
- No (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:11:55
- Eh? There isn't video evidence of flight 77 hitting the pentagon? (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:09:04
- Why don't you write to the families of the dead? (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 17:06:11
- And where have I have I said that... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:07:45
- why say their is video evidence if there isn't? (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:06:52
- They're on an Island! (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 16:59:20
- Maybe you should ask the US government... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:04:18
- So where is this plane now then?? (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 16:52:08
- I wondered when the smaller Pentagon hole would be brought up (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 17:08:35
- A fucking great hole in the building and a large missing airplane (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:45:29
- a building falling sounds like an explosion ffs (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 16:42:37
- it was before the buildings fell you fool. (n/m) (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 17:15:21
- like who...every account i have heard so far has mention pre collapse (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:42:09
- Just before I go ... (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 17:10:49
- and people hiting the ground would be heard... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 17:26:06
- Sorry thats rubbish... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:23:35
- massive explosions in lower levels (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:26:06
- Suggest you go and research it! (n/m) (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 17:30:12
- massive explosions in lower levels (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:26:06
- Just before I go ... (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 15, 17:10:49
- Right Have you seen transcripts of these statements? (General Chat) - romayellow, Oct 15, 16:41:16
- i never for once said i believed everything mentioned in the documentory.. (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 17:17:59
- basement workers were thrown*. (n/m) (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:33:07
- That's *not* proof. That's called anecdotal evidence from a handful of people. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:35:39
- You do understand that the official story of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory... (General Chat) - POA, Oct 15, 16:40:00
- Fantastic theories require fantastic proof (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:17:58
- i question them... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:10:29
- ***Telex report***Pharmaceutical Psychosis***stop***Patient Unbalanced***end (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 15, 18:42:49
- why so many? it was planned over the course a couple of years... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:03:20
- You are a first class twat (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 20:55:03
- Have a look around on the net for April Gallop (General Chat) - pants, Oct 15, 16:00:56
- I think you're a gullible fool re: said video. (General Chat) - InTheAbsenceOfAHorse, Oct 15, 15:27:20
- they put forward alot of facts... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 15:54:49
- I saw plenty of logical fallacies. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:01:23
- maybe...but (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:14:07
- You've read loads of biased reports (General Chat) - Poirot, Oct 15, 21:05:11
- maybe...but (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 16:14:07
- I saw plenty of logical fallacies. (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 15, 16:01:23
- they put forward alot of facts... (General Chat) - Alan, Oct 15, 15:54:49
- Flight 93 (General Chat) - CWC, Oct 15, 18:01:47
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