Yes its quite simple

Kenny was given a retrospective red card for violent conduct. Therefore the offence has to meet the criteria for violent conduct. It doesn't, as accidentally striking a player with your arm below the face is not violent conduct, even if it may be a foul.

I said last night the foul given on Gunn was one that might not regularly be given so we were a little lucky but it is a foul to carelessly or recklessly jump at, push or impede your opponent through contact. Indeed you could argue that it was obstruction without contact before the ball came in which is an indirect free kick. Technically that could probably be given at any set piece ver taken!

Posted By: Jim on December 11th 2024 at 10:50:54

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Just seen the result / McLean suspension (General Chat) - 51eve, Dec 11, 01:10:35
- Just looked at it for the first time. On the 'balance of probability'.... (General Chat) - Saucerer, Dec 11, 11:46:20
  - I just don't see that at all (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Dec 11, 12:56:12
    - Whilst I see what you are saying I think.... (General Chat) - Saucerer, Dec 11, 13:09:07
- Just trying to block his run. Never violent intent. (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Dec 11, 10:44:39
  - This is the thing, a bar and a precedent have been set. (General Chat) - megson, Dec 11, 10:49:42
    - Can only assume that it was looked at because it was reported as an off-the-ball incident (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Dec 11, 11:41:37
    - I can't see how this was any different to Dunne smashing Sainz (General Chat) - jamesward, Dec 11, 10:52:31
      - Yes he actually gives him a right hook in the face. (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 11, 11:02:41
        
        The evidence. There does appear to be a inconsistency on which events the League reviewed. (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Dec 11, 11:15:57
        
        You do have to say....just on the face of it that's a pretty bizarre double standard. (n/m) (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Dec 11, 12:06:31
        
        I'm not reaching Proth levels of conspiracy theory (General Chat) - camcan, Dec 11, 11:13:20
        
        Maybe Kenny's card is marked after he told the Boro ref that (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 11, 12:47:30
        
        My assumption was that it was in the referees report (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Dec 11, 11:29:45
        
        More information (although little more clarity) here: (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Dec 11, 11:48:53
        
        Schrodinger's refereeing. (General Chat) - camcan, Dec 11, 11:53:13
        
        Did the report also say (General Chat) - jamesward, Dec 11, 11:31:20
        
        Let's employ a legal team to go through every Champ game (General Chat) - jamesward, Dec 11, 11:23:48
        
        lol (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 13:18:24
- Who asked for this to be reviewed, the Ref, QPR, Burnley? Hoff makes a good point in his (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Dec 11, 09:37:48
  - McDonald's employees in the ground grassed him up (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Dec 11, 10:18:22
  - Would probably work against us (General Chat) - 51eve, Dec 11, 09:47:37
    - Yes I’m sure that’s how it works (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 09:49:07
      - We need to adopt the Leeds "The FA is Corrupt" chant (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Dec 11, 10:03:45
- It wasn’t accidental. He knew exactly what he was doing. Totally unnatural to throw his (General Chat) - thirsty work, Dec 11, 08:00:39
  - It was accidental. Obviously he meant to move his arms up but (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 11, 10:24:09
  - It wasn't for no reason. You can't disregard the context of what is happening in the game (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Dec 11, 10:05:41
  - I do agree. It’s harsh, but I agree. Could have just stepped across him, right? (n/m) (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Dec 11, 09:27:46
  - He didn’t throw his elbow back! He put his arm back (General Chat) - Chopper, Dec 11, 08:32:33
    - A forearm smash into the face (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 08:48:49
      - It was no forearm smash though … (General Chat) - loz, Dec 11, 09:32:38
        
        Yes it was (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 09:45:34
        
        Not at all, I’ll call any of our players out and I honestly (General Chat) - Chopper, Dec 11, 10:53:01
        
        Because Kenny knew he was coming! (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 13:22:06
        
        Looks like an intentional clotheslining (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Dec 11, 11:46:44
        
        You have to remember that Mikey’s never played any sport except badminton (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Dec 11, 09:33:44
        
        I think its more the need to be the conflicting voice. (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Dec 11, 10:45:03
        
        Nope I’m just the sensible voice (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 13:24:07
        
        Clearly if they think that’s a red. That plus they don’t understand the rule (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 11, 10:26:19
        
        on a computer (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 11, 09:51:33
        
        Wearing gloves and elbow pads, just in case (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Dec 11, 10:43:31
        
        Same for the independent regulatory commission too I’m sure! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 09:48:13
  - Yep and the ball hadn’t even been played (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 08:12:46
    - Red card all day long in the prem with VAR (n/m) (General Chat) - thirsty work, Dec 11, 08:46:32
      - No it’s not. Or at least shouldn’t be but with our idiot refs who knows (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 11, 10:25:30
        
        So not a red but (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 10:26:55
        
        Yes its quite simple (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 11, 10:50:54
        
        You can foul a player without it being a red card, as you well know. (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Dec 11, 10:45:50
        
        Of course (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 13:19:32
      - I’d like to think so (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 08:49:57
    - Just blocking a run not taking anyone’s face off… (General Chat) - loz, Dec 11, 08:25:29
      - Why is he swinging his arm out fully extended? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 08:56:39
        
        It’s at chest height. Watch the gsme on Sunday and see how often players do that (General Chat) - Jim, Dec 11, 10:29:46
        
        He connects with the face (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 13:20:12
- No worse than several last night that got yellows (General Chat) - paulg, Dec 11, 07:51:49
- Thorup went to see the ref after the QPR game and we got an apology phone call (General Chat) - footymadman, Dec 11, 07:05:48
- 3 match ban plus an extra game for his poor record (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Dec 11, 07:01:08

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