I agree that rapid demographic change can be a challenge for specific local areas

However, the right also use immigration as an issue to disguise their policy failure in other areas, e.g. economic policy, and in particular to deflect the political debate away from other issues such as inequality.

The other issue is that we have a falling birth rate and aging popultion, like many rich countires. Good luck in dealing with that without immigration.

Posted By: Knitted Jesus on November 6th 2024 at 10:59:49

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everything in life has a equal and opposite reaction (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 6, 07:35:41
- Just a up date to what I posted …. (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 6, 08:16:19
  - For everything else there’s Mastercard? (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 6, 08:18:17
    - 🎩👆🏻 (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 6, 09:09:40
- Common sense won (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 6, 08:16:04
  - They weren't the main drivers. It was the eonomy and the cost of living. Democrats could (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Nov 6, 08:56:54
    - Inflation from the Ukraine war has done for ruling parties everywhere (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 6, 09:12:40
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- There’s no way political trends are being driven by the left (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 6, 08:07:17
  - Course they are. Immigration policy the most obvious example (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 6, 09:34:38
    - What is left wing about immigration policy? (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 6, 10:03:02
      - We’ve also had Europes left wing immigration approach for most of it (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 6, 10:28:50
        
        Europe is very right wing you fool. free markets, including a free labour market (General Chat) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Nov 6, 19:10:10
        
        Your argument is very confusing. To me you are supporting my argument.... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Nov 6, 13:38:18
        
        Facilitating/allowing mass immigration is left wing in my view (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 6, 14:06:25
        
        Tories and reform got less than 40%. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Nov 6, 12:21:48
        
        Sorry was confusing it with the current polls (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 6, 12:48:30
        
        The fact we have long had 3 progressive parties. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Nov 6, 13:17:47
        
        What is left wing about immigration? (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Nov 6, 11:55:32
        
        I agree that rapid demographic change can be a challenge for specific local areas (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Nov 6, 10:59:49
        
        We need some immigration obviously, but it’s been out of control for a long time (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 6, 11:24:35
  - But (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 6, 08:12:59
    - What does woke mean and can you give me an example? (n/m) (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Nov 6, 10:22:14
      - ... (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 6, 10:33:29
        
        So, no then. (n/m) (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Nov 6, 11:15:38
        
        ?? (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 6, 12:07:57
    - And has been wildly overplayed of course. (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 6, 08:18:09
- I just don't think (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 6, 08:02:22
- That’s isn’t typically what happens. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Nov 6, 07:58:05
- Hmmm, not how I see it (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Nov 6, 07:55:49
  - Yes. Establishment left in the US is very different to everywhere else. (General Chat) - norwaay, Nov 6, 08:06:03
- Social media causing a lot of that too (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Nov 6, 07:40:54
  - Social media run by Elon Musk and taken over by Russian bots (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Nov 6, 07:44:50
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        It's amazing 👏 🤩 (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 6, 07:50:43
        
        🤏 (n/m) (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 6, 07:51:10
      - 😘 (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Nov 6, 07:47:26

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