Really tricky one this.
Imane Khelif isn’t transgender. She was born female, raised female but has a disorder where she has XY chromosomes. I’m a biologist and hadn’t been aware of this before. A lot of nuance that perhaps some will struggle with.
Posted By: Snakepit Divorcee on August 2nd 2024 at 19:01:32
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- loving the mixed boxing at this lympix (Other Sports) - Real Man, Aug 2, 17:26:00
- After seeing all that down there v v v v v peeps seem to be missing PK Canary, (n/m) (Other Sports) - Lentil Weaver, Aug 2, 20:05:08
- Cheers JK Rowling (n/m) (Other Sports) - Lentil Weaver, Aug 2, 19:55:59
- ^^^^ misogynist..... clearly hates real women.... (Other Sports) - usacanary, Aug 2, 20:19:48
- wut? (n/m) (Other Sports) - Lentil Weaver, Aug 2, 20:52:25
- ^^^^ misogynist..... clearly hates real women.... (Other Sports) - usacanary, Aug 2, 20:19:48
- Really tricky one this. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 19:01:32
- Has she been tested though? (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 19:35:52
- "usual suspects" (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:08:36
- It doesn’t contradict the IOC statement (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 20:17:09
- Interesting stuff (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Aug 2, 20:03:16
- Well, well, well. (n/m) (Other Sports) - norwaay, Aug 2, 20:00:15
- "usual suspects" (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:08:36
- It's not tricky at all (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 19:24:14
- It’s a tough one because it’s being weaponised by transphobes. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 19:31:34
- "as a post-graduate biologist, I find it hard to see the advantage she has" (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 19:42:53
- She may well be a biological male (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 19:49:21
- There's no IOC test because as I understand the IOC rules (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 19:53:56
- The IBA President claimed there had been a test (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 20:02:08
- There's no IOC test because as I understand the IOC rules (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 19:53:56
- No need to be rude. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 19:47:57
- The Court of Arbitration in Sport set out the advantages in the Semanya case (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 19:59:06
- Samanya (sic) had a different condition. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 20:09:57
- the point is that intersex athletes shouldn't compete against women (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:12:39
- I think SCC agrees with that; his point is that there's insufficient evidence that these (n/m) (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:14:46
- whooops - that these two boxers are intersex (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:15:48
- but they dont want them tested for some reason (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:17:22
- Who doesn’t want them tested? (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 20:18:38
- Those who wont accept a cheek swab test (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:19:49
- I don’t think anyone is denying that she has XY chromosomes. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 20:24:25
- Actually I think that's not clear yet (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:29:18
- Personally, I agree XY should be the line. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 20:38:01
- Thank you, you too (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:46:41
- Personally, I agree XY should be the line. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 20:38:01
- yeah good night. (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:25:23
- Not sure what I’ve done to offend you. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 20:29:03
- I'm sorry if I have offended you. (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:32:30
- I agree with that as a general proposition (n/m) (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:47:56
- SD tried engaging you in a grown up discussion. (Other Sports) - norwaay, Aug 2, 20:35:55
- doesnt change the facts (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:37:35
- Which are clearly not entirely established. (Other Sports) - norwaay, Aug 2, 20:41:04
- doesnt change the facts (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:37:35
- You have been courteous SD (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:29:55
- Cheers OG. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 20:42:31
- Agree (Other Sports) - norwaay, Aug 2, 20:36:30
- I'm sorry if I have offended you. (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:32:30
- Not sure what I’ve done to offend you. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 20:29:03
- Actually I think that's not clear yet (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:29:18
- I don’t think anyone is denying that she has XY chromosomes. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 20:24:25
- Those who wont accept a cheek swab test (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:19:49
- Who doesn’t want them tested? (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 20:18:38
- but they dont want them tested for some reason (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:17:22
- whooops - that these two boxers are intersex (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:15:48
- I think SCC agrees with that; his point is that there's insufficient evidence that these (n/m) (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 20:14:46
- the point is that intersex athletes shouldn't compete against women (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 20:12:39
- Samanya (sic) had a different condition. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 20:09:57
- you are not really a biologist, are you? (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:49:55
- Sheffield University (2:1), followed by King’s College. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 19:52:11
- The Court of Arbitration in Sport set out the advantages in the Semanya case (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 19:59:06
- She may well be a biological male (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 19:49:21
- This is how she presents herself in normal life (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:33:31
- I don’t see the relevance. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 19:43:02
- The issue is that she doesnt present as a woman. (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:47:28
- What’s been documented? (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 19:50:49
- Her banning from competition. (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:52:00
- We know she was banned after beating a Russian (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 19:53:53
- probably the document it was written on? (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:55:25
- Which nobody has seen 👍 (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 20:04:18
- She could always clear it up with a cheek swab test, of course (n/m) (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 19:54:59
- I don’t think this is a helpful attitude (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 20:06:08
- probably the document it was written on? (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:55:25
- We know she was banned after beating a Russian (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 19:53:53
- Her banning from competition. (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:52:00
- isnt (n/m) (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:47:43
- What’s been documented? (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 19:50:49
- Weight really not relevant (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 19:46:40
- See my reply to your other post. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 19:50:16
- The issue is that she doesnt present as a woman. (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:47:28
- I don’t see the relevance. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 19:43:02
- "as a post-graduate biologist, I find it hard to see the advantage she has" (Other Sports) - Old Git, Aug 2, 19:42:53
- It’s a tough one because it’s being weaponised by transphobes. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 19:31:34
- quite right. But Imane shouldn't be boxing females. (Other Sports) - shoddy, Aug 2, 19:05:04
- As I say, really tricky. (Other Sports) - Snakepit Divorcee, Aug 2, 19:07:46
- Has she been tested though? (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Aug 2, 19:35:52
- But it says it on their passports for goodness sake! I mean, what more proof is needed?! (n/m) (Other Sports) - paulg, Aug 2, 17:30:39
- perhaps we need a third section (Other Sports) - ghostof barry butler, Aug 2, 18:07:36
- What are your thoughts on the Mixed Relays real man? (n/m) (Other Sports) - Huge Small, Aug 2, 18:26:40
- Loving anything showing birds men is physically superior m8 (Other Sports) - Real Man, Aug 2, 18:29:54
- I see (n/m) (Other Sports) - Huge Small, Aug 2, 19:30:44
- lolf (n/m) (Other Sports) - Lentil Weaver, Aug 2, 20:02:47
- I see (n/m) (Other Sports) - Huge Small, Aug 2, 19:30:44
- Loving anything showing birds men is physically superior m8 (Other Sports) - Real Man, Aug 2, 18:29:54
- What are your thoughts on the Mixed Relays real man? (n/m) (Other Sports) - Huge Small, Aug 2, 18:26:40
- perhaps we need a third section (Other Sports) - ghostof barry butler, Aug 2, 18:07:36
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