If those who think it was a good idea can explain why we have last 2 trying to squeeze

Extra runs out now and how that is consistent with a team declaring in the first innings

Posted By: fond on June 19th 2023 at 16:11:56

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Declaration decision looking dodgy now (Other Sports) - Poirot, Jun 19, 15:29:10
- If those who think it was a good idea can explain why we have last 2 trying to squeeze (Other Sports) - fond, Jun 19, 16:11:56
  - so you're saying had we not declared early, the tail enders could've just chilled out? (Other Sports) - CWC, Jun 19, 16:31:03
    - No they were batting cos we needed more runs ? (Other Sports) - fond, Jun 19, 16:33:35
- Just wait and see. (n/m) (Other Sports) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jun 19, 15:51:39
- If only they could have predicted the future (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 19, 15:37:26
  - Was still reckless decision (n/m) (Other Sports) - fond, Jun 19, 15:48:02
    - An unnecessary one - if time were an issue then declare in the 2nd innings (n/m) (Other Sports) - fond, Jun 19, 16:01:41
    - Was a gamble (Other Sports) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 19, 15:53:09
  - If you make an unusual decision and lose a match you can't really then say (Other Sports) - megson, Jun 19, 15:40:54
  - Is it still hindsight if you thought they shouldn't declare at the time? (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jun 19, 15:39:16
    - No. It means you have better cricket instincts than England's best cricketers (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 19, 15:51:26
      - GTFI (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jun 19, 15:58:36
        
        Come round (n/m) (Other Sports) - Chris Peacock, Jun 19, 16:12:16
        
        jazwazball (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 19, 16:03:52
    - yes - everyone knows the decision could have gone either way (Other Sports) - paulg, Jun 19, 15:50:40
      - I don't think that fits the definition of hindsight (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jun 19, 15:59:58
      - That is fair, but i'd say the stats would show that taking a wicket in those 4 overs was (Other Sports) - megson, Jun 19, 15:53:49
- or we could still be 50 runs behind (Other Sports) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 19, 15:31:46
  - You're determined to die on this hill (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jun 19, 15:35:21
    - GOBB is right though, no one knows what would have happened had we not declared (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jun 19, 15:42:27
      - Were we in a "great position" with a a lead of 7? (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jun 19, 16:01:46
        
        You can't change a key moment and assume everything else would pan out the same (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jun 19, 16:13:26
        
        You don't think we'd have added some runs? (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jun 19, 16:15:58
        
        We probably would have added some runs, yes (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jun 19, 16:25:20
        
        Yes, poor wicket keeping probably the biggest factor tbh (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jun 19, 16:29:58
- bairstow's keeping even more so (n/m) (Other Sports) - paulg, Jun 19, 15:31:35
  - That one is going to rumble, and was a very tough call. (Other Sports) - megson, Jun 19, 15:35:20

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