and re the shaming point

it is for the individual to decide if, being wealthy enough to have a tax bill worth getting expensive advisors to spend time thinking creatively about, it is right that they should be able to exploit loopholes that weren;t intended to voer their particular situations.

No-one has any real problem with the moderately well off using up their annual ISA allowancs or pension contributions etc etc.

that's a bit different from someone who has nothing to do with (say) the movie industry suddenly investing in lots of tax efficient film investment schemes that were intended to boost the film industry rather than save a footballer or banker a bit of tax.

Legal (or was thought to be at the time) but ethical? That's for the individual to decide. I have no problem with society deciding that such things are morally objectionable and trying to shame people into different behaviours.

Posted By: CWC on April 8th 2022 at 16:03:17

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Genuine question, please dont go down the political route.... stick to the issue. (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 15:26:12
- Calm down everyone (General Chat) - KevinBond, Apr 8, 19:18:44
  - I wish someone would try and force me to pay taxes I don't owe... (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:28:23
    - If you were married to someone whose career depended on the goodwill of the populace (General Chat) - Old Git, Apr 8, 19:44:01
      - She will be paying more tax than his salaries (General Chat) - KevinBond, Apr 8, 19:49:14
        
        I wonder what his motivation was to become an MP (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 19:53:25
        
        If it was to protect her wealth (General Chat) - paulg, Apr 8, 20:56:16
        
        Why would you be fine? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 22:20:48
    - She could always leave the country (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 19:37:41
- The answer is whether she pops back to India to get medical treatment or leaches off us. (General Chat) - Ruttles, Apr 8, 18:49:08
  - How TF do you know how much I have ever earned? (General Chat) - Ruttles, Apr 8, 19:56:16
  - She has paid more in UK tax than you’ll ever earn (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 8, 19:19:20
    - Yeh someone who has probably payed millions in taxes... (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:31:55
      - She’s certainly been dodging tax on daddy’s business (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 19:40:08
        
        Thanks for avoiding the point. (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 20:14:23
- “Stick to the issue” (General Chat) - Old Git, Apr 8, 18:42:37
  - Bloody hell they were both born in 1980 (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 19:02:02
    - Tough paper round (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Apr 8, 19:13:19
  - i overheard a conversation today between two work colleagues (General Chat) - Tombs, Apr 8, 18:56:57
    - 🤣🤣 (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Apr 8, 21:05:58
    - Ha ha, that is a BRILLIANTLY appalling response (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Apr 8, 19:13:00
- The answer is whether she pops back to India to get medical treatment or leaches off us. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ruttles, Apr 8, 18:40:08
- 👏👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - helvegtheowl, Apr 8, 17:29:08
- I live within my means (General Chat) - Cardiff Canary, Apr 8, 17:05:51
- We pay tax?? (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Apr 8, 16:40:56
- If my spouse set the tax laws, then yeah (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 16:17:23
  - It's impossible to have this conversation without acknowledging this rather obvious point. (General Chat) - norwaay, Apr 8, 16:21:08
    - It looks very dodgy (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 17:02:17
    - ^^^ cant resist taking it down the political route..... (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 16:27:08
      - So your thread has nothing to do with the main U.K. news story (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 16:29:52
        
        It's such a riddle. (General Chat) - norwaay, Apr 8, 16:32:39
        
        It only tilts idiots . (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 18:59:20
        
        bud, there's a fuckern cost of living crisis (General Chat) - Tombs, Apr 8, 20:10:16
        
        POTD (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Apr 8, 20:14:30
      - Chill man - no need to get uptight. Pour yourself a negroni and relax. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Apr 8, 16:28:53
- tax avoidance = fine, tax evasion = BAD (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 8, 15:56:57
  - Won't get into the political stuff but I actually hate the... (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 16:08:11
    - Tax mitigation then (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 8, 16:59:33
    - i don't claim any deductions (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Apr 8, 16:12:41
      - Dont you get one of those over 70s cheap bus passes? (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 16:18:31
        
        no, because that would be fraud (General Chat) - Tombs, Apr 8, 16:20:55
        
        Dang Tombs, its just jokes.... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 16:23:42
        
        all fine this end cupcake 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Apr 8, 16:26:32
      - I don’t have any eyes (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Apr 8, 16:17:19
  - and re the shaming point (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 8, 16:03:17
    - Thats just an opinion and based on feelings. (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 16:17:01
      - Well obviously it’s an opinion based on personal feelings (General Chat) - CWC, Apr 8, 16:58:12
      - LOOOL (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 16:20:38
        
        USAC telling everyone how rich he is (General Chat) - norwaay, Apr 8, 16:26:09
        
        ^^^^ Thrives on conflict. (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 16:29:38
        
        You do bang on about it tbh (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Apr 8, 18:19:48
        
        Haterz gonna Hatez... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 19:04:37
        
        Dang USAC, it's just jokes... (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Apr 8, 16:31:18
        
        Thanks Mikey for you well thought out inteligent contribution. (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 16:24:48
        
        Ok boss! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Apr 8, 16:25:42
- Now that’s a question (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Apr 8, 15:34:48
  - ^ went down the political route (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Apr 8, 15:38:29
    - Yes sorry. I am a Tory voter so I’ve just been honest (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Apr 8, 15:40:32
      - Tories and honesty (General Chat) - Thorpey_C, Apr 8, 16:01:05
      - This sums it up for me (General Chat) - jamesward, Apr 8, 15:43:42
        
        IMHO taking out the political stuff. (General Chat) - usacanary, Apr 8, 15:53:38
        
        Well I couldn’t claim to be a non dom (General Chat) - jamesward, Apr 8, 16:05:49
- off course not (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 8, 15:30:54
- Legal tax efficiency is normal (General Chat) - jamesward, Apr 8, 15:29:25

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