No indeed

Are the Muslim protesters in Birmingham within or without what we should permit in the exercise of free speech? I think without: I think they are exercising their rights in an unacceptably hostile and aggressive fashion. But I feel uneasy about where that leads

Posted By: Old Git on June 7th 2019 at 15:43:49

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Adam and Steve! (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Jun 7, 14:10:12
- I just had to check what year it is. (n/m) (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 7, 15:00:25
  - It’s the Summer of Love (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 7, 15:33:11
    - Only if Highlander's not there! (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 7, 15:36:21
      - ^^^That deserved a bit more 👏 (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Jun 7, 16:19:48
        
        Chairs, Unks. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Jun 7, 17:30:38
        
        High waisted (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jun 7, 18:23:05
- What was the name of that poster that gotta booted off (General Chat) - SeattleSounders, Jun 7, 14:48:14
  - PK? (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 7, 14:51:36
    - Not me I'm afraid. (General Chat) - Highlander, Jun 7, 15:25:56
      - It's the obvious question, but how far do you think freedom of speech should go? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 7, 15:36:07
        
        No indeed (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 7, 15:43:49
        
        A distinction can be drawn (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 7, 15:47:29
      - Freedom of speech does not equal freedom of consequence. (n/m) (General Chat) - lurd, Jun 7, 15:30:37
      - I'm wondering how you imagined a post like that would be received? (General Chat) - norway, Jun 7, 15:28:22
        
        This was my thinking (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 7, 16:10:53
        
        Where did you read that exactly? Or are we making shit up again as usual (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 7, 15:57:56
        
        "I don't agree with the law that allows such open same-sex relationships" (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jun 7, 16:02:54
        
        Well.. (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 7, 16:26:07
        
        Righto 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jun 7, 16:50:13
      - Nice ot see you reflecting that perhaps it's your own attitude that needs to change... (General Chat) - mr chimp, Jun 7, 15:28:16
    - Yep. Thats the guy. (n/m) (General Chat) - SeattleSounders, Jun 7, 15:04:22
- as much as i disagree with highlanders out dated view (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 7, 14:43:47
  - He can hold them, just not openly (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 7, 15:57:54
  - And furthermore it's the kind of attitude that leads.. (General Chat) - mr chimp, Jun 7, 15:15:55
    - I don’t believe in the law that allows bigots to express/have such disgusting views (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 7, 15:49:47
      - Wouldn't it be quite extreme (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 7, 15:53:21
  - He can hold whatever shitty opinions he likes. (General Chat) - mr chimp, Jun 7, 15:13:52
  - I agree, it's better to engage than just to flame. (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 7, 14:59:50
    - Massively insecure? What worries me is how they raise their kids to think the same (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 7, 15:43:14
    - I think the clue is in (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 7, 15:15:15
      - Spot on!! (General Chat) - Highlander, Jun 7, 15:28:25
        
        So what? If seeing others express their gayness did make them gay? So what? (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 7, 15:44:21
        
        So, to be clear, you think sexual liberation encourages people to *choose* homosexuality? (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jun 7, 15:30:25
    - you say one thing .. but did another (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 7, 15:14:07
    - It’s an amazingly prevalent world view (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 7, 15:12:40
      - Homosexuality is NOT illegal in Egypt. (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Jun 7, 18:16:32
      - Convictions seem fairly unlikely... (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 7, 15:16:27
  - The argument for free speech is incredibly complicate and morally very divisive. (General Chat) - APB, Jun 7, 14:47:12
    - If we're not careful, we end up here ... (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 7, 15:21:35
    - Not really free speech is it its more free thought (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 7, 14:56:30
      - what about my right to call a homophobic cunt a cunt? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 7, 15:01:45
        
        It's perfectly alright to feel very strongly (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 7, 15:27:28
        
        I actually agreed with your argumentation of why his opinion is abhorrent (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Jun 7, 15:10:23
        
        i not kidding myself into thinking i'm going to change his mind (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 7, 15:24:59
        
        Thing is though you don;t know what he's like. I'd wager you could probably spend (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 7, 16:15:04
        
        oh he's espoused enough other views on here for me to know he's a cunt (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 7, 16:38:10
        
        The normal stuff is meant to make the cuntish stuff irrelevant (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 7, 16:46:57
        
        Just a sign of the times really. Abuse rather than debate/persuade. (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 7, 15:02:57
        
        oh but i gave reasons too (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 7, 15:17:44
        
        What's to debate? Genuinely... (General Chat) - mr chimp, Jun 7, 15:17:12
        
        or the attitude probably of the majority of the world population who are (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 7, 16:10:55
        
        I'm more than happy to write off the views of anyone (General Chat) - duke of york, Jun 7, 16:13:38
        
        VMT (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 7, 16:22:46
        
        But religious views aren’t based on debate (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 7, 15:04:33
      - think/believe not "thing" (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 7, 14:56:49
- Have vague memories of some other gems from him (presumably he’s male). (n/m) (General Chat) - woody, Jun 7, 14:20:21
- Amazing. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Jun 7, 14:16:16
  - Thing is (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 7, 14:25:43
    - Totally this! (n/m) (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Jun 7, 14:39:19
    - “there's a major political party out there whose members largely share that view” (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 7, 14:38:14
      - ... (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 7, 14:46:01
        
        To be fair opposing gay marriage is not the same as thinking homosexuality should be (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 7, 14:59:08
        
        Exactly this. (n/m) (General Chat) - Basingstoke_Canary_J, Jun 7, 16:02:05
        
        That’s true (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 7, 15:02:40
    - Spot on Tricky (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Jun 7, 14:33:42
    - Doing my job it’s very hard to be in a bubble. (General Chat) - APB, Jun 7, 14:30:43
      - This is why education is so important...it really is the most important (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Jun 7, 14:38:14

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