Part of the problem is the reaction today. Any criticism of Hilary is met with immediate

accusations of Misogyny.
No room for discussion about the fact not using her workplace's email servers might have given her opponent a stick to beat her with for example.
Nope - if you are a man on the left saying mistakes were made you are an example of the ongoing misogyny on the left.

While we keep doing that, meeting any opinion with accusations of racism/sexism whatever else, we will keep Brexiting and Trumping.
You can't discuss peoples views and persuade them of your arguements by insulting them.

She lost because she is the embodiment of the establishment and he was an anti establishment candidate, perfect for him.

Posted By: megson on November 9th 2016 at 17:04:41

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Too many words, some of them nsfw, but this is quite good (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 9, 15:43:09
- The fact that they do have undoubted geniune concerns is surely exactly... (General Chat) - mr carra, Nov 9, 19:23:00
- Yep, like SCC said.... (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 9, 17:49:12
- I read cracked.com a lot (General Chat) - CauldRon, Nov 9, 17:20:00
- I read that a while back. It does have some salient points. (General Chat) - APB, Nov 9, 16:56:08
  - Agree re no solutions (General Chat) - Old Man, Nov 9, 18:01:30
  - Part of the problem is the reaction today. Any criticism of Hilary is met with immediate (General Chat) - megson, Nov 9, 17:04:41
    - And very much the same with the Brexit vote. People can;t accept that (General Chat) - Jim, Nov 9, 17:50:40
      - Point of fact - they're not mutually exclusive. (General Chat) - APB, Nov 9, 18:20:46
        
        Pretty much as both sides then. (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 9, 18:31:03
        
        Nobody has a monopoly on being stupid. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Nov 9, 19:47:53
      - you're right (General Chat) - paulg, Nov 9, 18:01:33
        
        all that's been talked about for years is fucking immigration (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 9, 20:16:57
        
        I think, hope most of the crap he spoke was rhetoric for the election (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 9, 18:08:53
        
        main hope is actually his vanity (General Chat) - mr carra, Nov 9, 18:26:22
        
        Certainly vain, didn't think he cared much about politics before so (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 9, 18:32:32
        
        Bush jr acted the buffoon, but he's exceedingly well-read (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 9, 18:13:11
      - I found that aspect rather condescending regarding Brexit. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 9, 18:00:22
- excellent piece...I had just read it too! (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Nov 9, 16:34:10
- very good and accurate too (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 9, 16:32:45
- Bloody excellent piece. Thanks. (n/m) (General Chat) - dennis moore, Nov 9, 16:16:19
- that is very interesting (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Nov 9, 16:14:28
  - What did you see? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 9, 17:48:38
  - That is excellent, explains it so simply. (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 9, 16:58:32
  - ? (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Nov 9, 16:56:18
    - ?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Men without hats, Nov 9, 17:02:39

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