The spin has made out its about money and pay but

In reality that's not entirely the case.
In addition it was not initially about 7 day working (juniors do this more than most) 4 yrs ago when the negotiations started 7 day working did not exist as a policy.
It's become that argument because it's a way of spinning it.
Doctors did not ask for a new contract not for more money.

However, which profession would accept being blamed for inefficiencies, told to work more weekends, more unregulated hours, less safeguards on those hours worked, no redress if hours too much, opting out of EWTD, less support generally AND TAKE A 30% PAYCUT??

It's dangerous for patients, it's unfair for doctors.

I'm frothing at the mouth with anger!

Sorry....I've kept quiet for so long about this on what is a football board....

I may go full rant soon!!

Posted By: admckechnie on February 11th 2016 at 12:31:59

Message Thread

I have kept quiet on here re Doctors contract....Hunt and this government are a disgrace (General Chat) - admckechnie, Feb 11, 12:16:16
- Jeremy Hunt,minister or rhyming slang. (n/m) (General Chat) - CROYDONCANARY, Feb 11, 16:47:40
- What I do NOT get is how Hunt thinks all this will ensure mortality rates will fall at (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 14:05:24
  - Well......it's spin and bullshit Essex. (General Chat) - admckechnie, Feb 11, 14:13:23
    - That's what I mean. Sounds like BS. Plus he had the stats too early I think (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 15:03:09
- I honestly was not having a go at doctors I just genuinely wanted to understand (General Chat) - Jim, Feb 11, 13:58:23
- Well said. I sympathise entirely. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Feb 11, 13:51:41
  - Absolutely. Because he wants to privatise incrementally the NAH as they're doing to educa (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 11, 14:11:47
    - NHS FFS! (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 11, 14:12:02
  - They're never to blame. Policy makers. Slippery b@stards. Say 1 thing, do another (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 13:52:54
- Perhaps it might be best to make the NHS non-political? Give it (General Chat) - dennis moore, Feb 11, 13:36:29
  - It has far more to do with ideology than economics, like most of (General Chat) - CB41, Feb 11, 14:00:15
    - Yep. Govt have been destroying the welfare state for a while now (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 14:08:10
- Well said👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 11, 13:35:52
- Right behind you (n/m) (General Chat) - colincanary, Feb 11, 13:30:51
- big hugs x (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Feb 11, 13:12:48
- With you 100%... (General Chat) - yellowman, Feb 11, 13:08:27
- Preaching to the converted here. You and your colleagues have my 100% backing (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Feb 11, 13:02:58
- I appreciate it and wish you and your colleagues nothing but the best... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Feb 11, 12:49:39
- 100% Backing Here As Well (General Chat) - Martin Peters, Feb 11, 12:45:56
- You and all the other decent junior doctors out there deserve a great deal of credit (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 12:43:43
- 100% behind this action Staff at N&NUH are amazing. Shouldn't be s**t on by Govt. (n/m) (General Chat) - trustsec, Feb 11, 12:38:43
- Well done for speaking out (General Chat) - Old Man, Feb 11, 12:38:10
  - Forgot about that... (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Feb 11, 12:59:16
    - There are some good eggs amongst MPs though, Robin Cook, Norman Lamb etc (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 13:02:20
      - Norman Lamb who voted for the NHS changes... (n/m) (General Chat) - Larry Hagman, Feb 11, 16:16:12
        
        This is how he voted (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 18:19:20
      - I said parties essex, snot individuals - appreciate there are some good ones (n/m) (General Chat) - Dandy Highburyman, Feb 11, 13:05:52
        
        True dat (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 13:35:24
  - "Whatta"? (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 12:51:36
    - c**t (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Feb 11, 13:36:32
- In my 14 yrs as a doctor I've never seen morale so low. (n/m) (General Chat) - admckechnie, Feb 11, 12:33:37
  - Enough's enough. Everyone has a breaking point. I don't blame the BMA & it's members (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 12:44:29
- The spin has made out its about money and pay but (General Chat) - admckechnie, Feb 11, 12:31:59
  - A few years ago we went on strike at Royal Mail (General Chat) - littletinyphil, Feb 11, 13:46:14
  - That sounds very much like a lose-lose situation for the profession (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 12:49:39
- Andrew, I'd just like to say how much I support the junior Drs and how strongly (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Feb 11, 12:26:18
- FWIW (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Feb 11, 12:25:59
  - Hi mate (General Chat) - berstreetsfinest, Feb 11, 12:44:22
    - I might try a get in a pint or 2 Saturday I'll see where you are (General Chat) - strap_on sally, Feb 11, 12:48:20
      - Nice one and I'm so pleased mate! (n/m) (General Chat) - berstreetsfinest, Feb 11, 13:01:33
- You have my 100% backing, I simply couldn't do what you do. (General Chat) - megson, Feb 11, 12:25:38
- Well I back you and your colleagues wholeheartedly. (General Chat) - bird table, Feb 11, 12:22:27
- Jeremy Hunt (General Chat) - Barno, Feb 11, 12:21:16
- And to add to that, I know an incredibly Tory junior doctor (General Chat) - Yellalee, Feb 11, 12:18:28
- I stopped writing as too many words already.....I'm angry and I apologise for ranting (n/m) (General Chat) - admckechnie, Feb 11, 12:17:16
  - No need to apologise. I'd be livid too if I were you. (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Feb 11, 12:54:04

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