Brentford are being over hyped if you ask me
We were that bad on Saturday that any top half team probably would have beaten us. The fact is that despite our utterly appalling display they still needed a slightly fortuitous penalty to beat us and we still created enough good chances to have got something from the game. That does not suggest that they are that good.
What they are is a well coached, enthusiastic team with a good midfield who pass and move very well. This being the case they were probably one of the worst sides we could have come up against with all our central midfielders missing because that area is their real strength and Pritchard was basically able to operate completely unchecked all game. I suspect it would have been very different had Tettey been operating in his usual zone and closing him down.
All of which makes the set up, tactics and centre back pairing rather baffling because having seen Brentford live just once this season at the away game I could have told you how they were going to play, that they would pose little threat in the air but that their small, nippy midfielders passing and moving would be the main threat. Having calmed down a bit I'm inclined to give Neil the benefit of the doubt and think he was perhaps over confident in the ability of our players to impose ourselves on them in the 4-2-3-1.. He will learn that with our lot you can't rely on that! The alternative is that he was just very naive which is much more concerning. Above all though I have now reconciled myself to the fact we are not suddenly going to sweep all before us and surge to the top two. It's playoffs at best now and then just hope our team show up in those games!
I think he would help himself immensely by playing Wes and focusing on a bit of ball retention in the next few games though.
Posted By: Jim on January 26th 2015 at 09:27:14
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- We appear to have appointed a manager who shares the same coaching philosophy (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 26, 08:32:47
- FWIW I don't think he'll be our manager at the start of next season (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:32:30
- I will also say that AN was unlucky (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:35:50
- exactly, I can't remember when we have ever been down to one central midfielder before. (n/m) (NCFC) - thirsty work, Jan 26, 09:38:44
- AN made a decision, when I heard it I said this could (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:43:30
- Would have been hard to ask a young player who has never played at this level to play out (NCFC) - thirsty work, Jan 26, 09:54:37
- Mcgrandles is primarily a left winger ... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:49:26
- Played midfield for the U21s as far as I know. (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:52:11
- Because he doesn't think he is ready for... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:53:37
- Played midfield for the U21s as far as I know. (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:52:11
- I actually thought Whittaker would do a half decent job in there (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 26, 09:45:36
- The first goal was what really got me with Whitaker, the way he (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 26, 09:52:15
- yep i could see why he did it, I like you thought it could work (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:50:42
- Do you not find it a worry that the manager could actually think (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 26, 09:54:23
- My head is spinning at the moment (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:57:53
- Lafferty just one of a number ... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:52:13
- Do you not find it a worry that the manager could actually think (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 26, 09:54:23
- Couldn't E Bennet have done a job there? (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Jan 26, 09:39:24
- He would not be my pick as a defensive midfielder. I really don't think he had any choice. (n/m) (NCFC) - thirsty work, Jan 26, 09:44:52
- AN made a decision, when I heard it I said this could (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:43:30
- exactly, I can't remember when we have ever been down to one central midfielder before. (n/m) (NCFC) - thirsty work, Jan 26, 09:38:44
- That would be fucking stupid. We need a complete overhaul of players. The manager needs to (NCFC) - thirsty work, Jan 26, 09:34:27
- We need to play as a team, we need to set out correctly with a clear gameplan (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:39:33
- He wasn't a direct manager at Hamilton and... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:48:23
- Ok (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 10:11:53
- He wasn't a direct manager at Hamilton and... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:48:23
- Exactly this (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:34:55
- We need to play as a team, we need to set out correctly with a clear gameplan (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:39:33
- I will also say that AN was unlucky (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:35:50
- I don't think this squad is all that (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Jan 26, 09:08:07
- Exactly brentford are basically us... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:10:50
- Brentford are being over hyped if you ask me (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 26, 09:27:14
- Us under Lambert: We heard 'worst side to have beaten us this season' most weeks (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Jan 26, 09:32:11
- Exactly my point whether him rates them... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:33:22
- Don't get me wrong i'm not saying they are a bad side at all just (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 26, 09:49:34
- Agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Jan 26, 09:35:19
- Exactly my point whether him rates them... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:33:22
- Us under Lambert: We heard 'worst side to have beaten us this season' most weeks (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, Jan 26, 09:32:11
- AN's comments after the game suggest he will be getting rid of a few players who did not (NCFC) - thirsty work, Jan 26, 09:22:05
- The Brentford 5 could be the new Plymouth 6? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 26, 10:00:43
- Agree start again (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:32:11
- Brentford are being over hyped if you ask me (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 26, 09:27:14
- Exactly brentford are basically us... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:10:50
- You know fuck all about him... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:00:15
- But that was Hamilton - League 2 outfit (NCFC) - Old Splat, Jan 26, 09:37:15
- lets see shall we? im basing that on watching one game. but I (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 26, 09:03:25
- "im basing that on watching one game" (NCFC) - thirsty work, Jan 26, 09:06:02
- One game against a side ... (NCFC) - loz, Jan 26, 09:04:41
- well, you make my point for me. I know fukk all about him. No one knows anything about him (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 26, 09:10:23
- Surely every managerial appointment is a risk (NCFC) - Brom, Jan 26, 09:35:39
- indeed - how have Wigan got on appointing Coyle, Rosler and now Mackay (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 26, 10:08:18
- They've still got some decent players too on paper (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 26, 10:11:47
- Can't (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 26, 10:04:46
- Please insert 'argue with that' (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 26, 10:05:55
- indeed - how have Wigan got on appointing Coyle, Rosler and now Mackay (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 26, 10:08:18
- take time to read articles on him and his number 2 then (n/m) (NCFC) - thirsty work, Jan 26, 09:17:40
- just because we as City fans don't yet know anything about him doesn't mean no-one does (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 26, 09:15:14
- im talking about track record for a few seasons in a decent division. not too much to ask? (n/m) (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 26, 09:23:10
- Surely every managerial appointment is a risk (NCFC) - Brom, Jan 26, 09:35:39
- well, you make my point for me. I know fukk all about him. No one knows anything about him (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 26, 09:10:23
- One defeat and you come out with that? incredible. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 26, 08:54:19
- about time the players took some responsibility (NCFC) - pab, Jan 26, 08:53:42
- Well that's Monday off to a flying start. (n/m) (NCFC) - thirsty work, Jan 26, 08:48:15
- bleak start. (n/m) (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 26, 08:53:24
- Firstly, are you being serious? (n/m) (NCFC) - BigGrantHolt, Jan 26, 08:35:26
- I assume you are. (NCFC) - BigGrantHolt, Jan 26, 09:11:34
- whittaker in CM for 80 minutes was idiotic. (n/m) (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 26, 09:15:35
- it was a crap option picked ahead of an alternative bunch of other crap options (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 26, 09:25:33
- You'd have played who there instead? (NCFC) - megson, Jan 26, 09:21:17
- Johnson in place of Wittaker & Wes where Johnson was. it's not rocket science! (n/m) (NCFC) - Drinklebells, Jan 26, 12:57:54
- mcgrandles? cant have been worse. we have all watched whittaker. (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 26, 09:36:19
- From what i've seen of McG i'm not impressed. He struggles to make an impact on (NCFC) - megson, Jan 26, 09:40:29
- whittaker in CM for 80 minutes was idiotic. (n/m) (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 26, 09:15:35
- I assume you are. (NCFC) - BigGrantHolt, Jan 26, 09:11:34
- Agreed 100% (n/m) (NCFC) - bartender100, Jan 26, 08:34:49
- FWIW I don't think he'll be our manager at the start of next season (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 26, 09:32:30
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