12 impartial jurors unanimously disagreed with Ched's opinion of her sobriety *Shrug*
The taxi driver and porter both thought she was extremey drunk. His own mate thought she was in such a bad state as to merit asking the porter to look after her. She was sick and woke up in piss with no memory. On the morning after the night before, Evans didn't leave the hotel by the front door that he came in through but chose to leave via a fire exit.
It's not difficult to see how the jury might have thought that Ched's opinion of whether she was capable of informed consent might have been wrong. And when you think that the prosecution has to show 'beyond reasonable doubt' that there was no consent...
Maybe she did consent, maybe she didn't. We've all known men and women who get stupidly drunk and do stupid things. All we can go on is that 12 jurors felt it should have been obvious enough to Evans that she wasn't consenting to sex, and I have even less reason to doubt the 12 jurors than the 3 Court of Appeal judges who let the decision stand.
But his absolute best case scenario is that he went after a drunk woman who his mate had pulled, taking along other mates who then tried to record it. I find his mindset that that sort of behaviour is perfectly ok and not something to show any regret about very unsettling.
It doesn't take an admission of guilt to show remorse.
I actually think that it's his lack of any sign of remorse that makes things so much worse Everyone makes mistakes and, by and large, the public/media forgive/ignore a huge amount - like that footballer who killed someone whilst driving drunk(?) but who came out with an apology and offers to work with charities dealing with such things. Many people will undoubtedly even be thinking 's**t, that could have been me'. All it would have taken to defuse it would have been some sign that he's sorry the situation arose. It would have been a classic 'tomorrow's fish paper' situation.
Evans has either played this very very badly or he's an epic c**t. The fact he let his mates hound the poor woman out of her home speaks volumes.
Posted By: CWC on November 18th 2014 at 16:38:30
Message Thread
- The Ched thing and why should he show any remorse... (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, Nov 18, 12:18:59
- "the fact remains that he still took advantage of a hopelessly inebriated woman" (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 18, 13:12:37
- 12 impartial jurors unanimously disagreed with Ched's opinion of her sobriety *Shrug* (Other Football) - CWC, Nov 18, 16:38:30
- But the same 12 jurors thought she was sober enough to consent to his mate (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 18, 19:32:51
- I'm not saying his behavior in the "best case scenario" was perfectly ok (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 18, 17:36:42
- Luck McCormick is now the captain of Plymouth (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Nov 18, 16:58:25
- Yes. (n/m) (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Nov 18, 16:51:14
- This ^^^^^ very very this. (n/m) (Other Football) - megson, Nov 18, 16:45:36
- What he could do is talk about the importance of consent and that the inability (Other Football) - megson, Nov 18, 15:41:05
- I completely agree. His response has been very arrogant (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Nov 18, 16:55:41
- Sorry I meant if they don't issue an apology! (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 18, 13:17:04
- 12 impartial jurors unanimously disagreed with Ched's opinion of her sobriety *Shrug* (Other Football) - CWC, Nov 18, 16:38:30
- Having seen that video posted previously (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 18, 12:24:40
- many people go from looking mildly drunk to inebriated without drinking more (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 18, 12:50:01
- Yeah, maybe got more tanked in the room (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 18, 13:15:24
- thank you miss marples (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 18, 12:53:38
- ^^more posts like this please (n/m) (Other Football) - Strap on Van Sally, Nov 18, 14:58:06
- trivialising people debating rape and rape culture in society (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 18, 15:32:07
- the case has been tried in a court, verdict delivered and justice served (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 18, 15:41:04
- trivialising people debating rape and rape culture in society (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 18, 15:32:07
- ^^more posts like this please (n/m) (Other Football) - Strap on Van Sally, Nov 18, 14:58:06
- what about the mobile phone (Other Football) - Dave in France, Nov 18, 12:42:17
- many people go from looking mildly drunk to inebriated without drinking more (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 18, 12:50:01
- "the fact remains that he still took advantage of a hopelessly inebriated woman" (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 18, 13:12:37
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