"the fact remains that he still took advantage of a hopelessly inebriated woman"
But isn't the point that he does not accept that he did because he is saying that she consented and was not hopelessly drunk. And in fact what footage there is available does not suggest she was as hopelessly drunk as portrayed.
Some people can drink a lot and still be coherent and lucid. people have different tolerances. We do silly things when we are drunk. Probably most on here have pulled or even slept with someone we wouldn't normally due to the old "beer goggles" and regretted it the next day. Were we all sexually assaulted? Judgment on both sides can go out the window.
The point though about the apology is really IF he genuinely believes he's innocent then he is not going to apologise. If he did apologise just to be allowed to play again then it would be pretty meaningless anyway.
He's going down the one route left to him to try and clear his name. Everyone should let that process run its course and then make a decision. Ultimately the decision to be made is whether we as a society believe there are certain serious criminal offences that are so serious that, as well as the sentence imposed on the offender by the court, they should then be precluded from holding certain jobs/public roles forevermore. Or should they only be prevented from doing so if they issue a quick apology? Personally i think it should be a matter of choice for the employer in these circumstances and they will then have to live with the consequences of their decision.
Posted By: Jim on November 18th 2014 at 13:12:37
Message Thread
- The Ched thing and why should he show any remorse... (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, Nov 18, 12:18:59
- "the fact remains that he still took advantage of a hopelessly inebriated woman" (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 18, 13:12:37
- 12 impartial jurors unanimously disagreed with Ched's opinion of her sobriety *Shrug* (Other Football) - CWC, Nov 18, 16:38:30
- But the same 12 jurors thought she was sober enough to consent to his mate (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 18, 19:32:51
- I'm not saying his behavior in the "best case scenario" was perfectly ok (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 18, 17:36:42
- Luck McCormick is now the captain of Plymouth (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Nov 18, 16:58:25
- Yes. (n/m) (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Nov 18, 16:51:14
- This ^^^^^ very very this. (n/m) (Other Football) - megson, Nov 18, 16:45:36
- What he could do is talk about the importance of consent and that the inability (Other Football) - megson, Nov 18, 15:41:05
- I completely agree. His response has been very arrogant (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Nov 18, 16:55:41
- Sorry I meant if they don't issue an apology! (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 18, 13:17:04
- 12 impartial jurors unanimously disagreed with Ched's opinion of her sobriety *Shrug* (Other Football) - CWC, Nov 18, 16:38:30
- Having seen that video posted previously (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 18, 12:24:40
- many people go from looking mildly drunk to inebriated without drinking more (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 18, 12:50:01
- Yeah, maybe got more tanked in the room (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 18, 13:15:24
- thank you miss marples (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 18, 12:53:38
- ^^more posts like this please (n/m) (Other Football) - Strap on Van Sally, Nov 18, 14:58:06
- trivialising people debating rape and rape culture in society (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 18, 15:32:07
- the case has been tried in a court, verdict delivered and justice served (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 18, 15:41:04
- trivialising people debating rape and rape culture in society (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 18, 15:32:07
- ^^more posts like this please (n/m) (Other Football) - Strap on Van Sally, Nov 18, 14:58:06
- what about the mobile phone (Other Football) - Dave in France, Nov 18, 12:42:17
- many people go from looking mildly drunk to inebriated without drinking more (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 18, 12:50:01
- "the fact remains that he still took advantage of a hopelessly inebriated woman" (Other Football) - Jim, Nov 18, 13:12:37
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