I don't think they really do back off any more

Everyone members the ref at Old Trafford backpedalling around the pitch to get away from Keane et al. These days, they stand their ground.

Problem is, there is just a culture of abusing refs - messageboards, stands, whatever. It is preyy miserable really - the way that human error is assumed to be corruption or collusion. Just not the refs' fault.

Posted By: norway on October 29th 2013 at 09:09:37

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Interesting interview with James Willstrop in The Times (Other Football) - Old Git, Oct 29, 08:59:03
- Still on the bright side we've not seen scenes like this in the EPL (Other Football) - Old Man, Oct 29, 09:18:20
- Ought to be simple, oughtn't it? (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Oct 29, 09:04:56
  - I've always said that footy refs should be microphoned up like rugby refs, (Other Football) - I Am Hoot, Oct 29, 11:13:41
  - When I played rugby I was once sent off for "foul & abusive language". I had (Other Football) - CB41, Oct 29, 10:27:29
    - that's going too far the other way imo (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 29, 10:34:23
      - but there is a problem with the intent... like diving it is difficult to spot intent (Other Football) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 29, 10:40:45
        
        that's what the ref is there to do though, use his (or her) judgement (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 29, 11:01:54
        
        That's what he said in the bar after when I told him I thought he'd been unreasonable. He (Other Football) - CB41, Oct 29, 10:43:42
        
        Can still get that on sunday mornings with some Ref's. Will warn you the first time they (Other Football) - megson, Oct 29, 10:50:47
      - It was 1974 - it is different now. (n/m) (Other Football) - CB41, Oct 29, 10:37:07
  - Exactly right: it would take 2 weeks, and that would be that. (n/m) (Other Football) - paulg, Oct 29, 09:45:19
  - Where you sitting tonight? (Other Football) - duke of york, Oct 29, 09:33:03
    - If anyone ends up with a spare ticket I'm sure I can get out of taking my dog to training. (n/m) (Other Football) - trafford_canary, Oct 29, 10:09:13
    - East Stand Tier 1 Upper (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Oct 29, 09:35:03
      - East Stand Tier 1 Upper (Other Football) - duke of york, Oct 29, 09:40:12
        
        Driving or cabbaging? (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Oct 29, 09:50:32
        
        Driving (Other Football) - duke of york, Oct 29, 09:51:51
        
        Aha. Plan. (n/m) (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Oct 29, 09:55:41
  - I don't think they really do back off any more (Other Football) - norway, Oct 29, 09:09:37
    - Isn't it a psychological ploy too, that some teams pressure the ref (Other Football) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 29, 09:18:43
  - Not remotely a fan of egg chasing. But Rugby has got this right. (Other Football) - Old Man, Oct 29, 09:06:58
    - Don't even talk to the ref unless you're the captain. (n/m) (Other Football) - HairyBobbingManAss, Oct 29, 09:14:08
    - They also do retrospective punishment for stuff the ref misses (Other Football) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 29, 09:10:47
    - That is kind of the case in football re (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Oct 29, 09:10:10
      - ...really. (Other Football) - norway, Oct 29, 09:10:51
        
        You can lip read that sort of thing all the time on TV (Other Football) - duke of york, Oct 29, 09:28:16
        
        No it should be zero tolerance towards the ref... any swearing directed at the ref is an (Other Football) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 29, 09:14:19
        
        It's hard to say the former without implying the latter though (Other Football) - Old Man, Oct 29, 09:12:22

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