history is littered with players who have had one exceptional Prem season

(especially with the buzz of playing there for the first time) then returned to their natural level. That's one of the reasons for Second Season Syndrome. It might well be that the Holt, Wes etc performances from this season are actually their 'real' level and last year was just a flash in the pan. It might not. I don't know for sure, and nor should you.

Posted By: mr carra on May 7th 2013 at 13:09:57

Message Thread

Loving the early mutterings of, 'even if we stay up I'm not happy' (NCFC) - pants, May 7, 12:10:08
- You've been a bit quiet these last few days pants..... (NCFC) - South stand corner, May 7, 12:34:35
  - Despite having a stress fracture, I hobbled to the yeah yeah yeahs (NCFC) - pants, May 7, 13:41:37
    - Fair play to pants also (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:43:19
      - I'm still here (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, May 7, 14:59:14
        
        and me... (n/m) (NCFC) - Vivid Data Shark, May 7, 15:16:14
      - Well I appear to have pissed him off. I'm sorry if that's the case (NCFC) - pants, May 7, 13:49:33
        
        You haven't infuriated me (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:53:05
  - Spect he saw the Wrath was populated by (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 12:58:04
    - Nice one (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:00:48
      - A lot weren't. A lot were down right nasty. It's totally unnesseccary (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:04:22
        
        The whole I was right/you were wrong thing (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:06:35
        
        Spose but it's unpleasant and is probably the reason why quite a lot of posters stayed off (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:08:42
- It will be brilliant if we do stay up. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:27:33
- some here appear to be evolving into Wolves fans (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 12:18:20
  - yeah, people who don't rate Hoot's tactical genius must be ideots or scummers (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:28:16
    - certainly not idiots (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:44:18
      - But that's just utter nonsense (NCFC) - norway, May 7, 12:59:10
        
        they have indeed filled paragraph after paragraph (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:18:24
        
        To repeat (NCFC) - norway, May 7, 13:28:13
        
        give me a link to such a 'reasoned' post then (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:42:51
        
        tbf the huge majority ARE (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 13:37:36
        
        People have put forward *far* more in depth reasons than (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:25:27
        
        not you obviously (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:29:40
        
        Well that's just picking a fight. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 7, 13:30:42
        
        no, I'm not (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:35:38
        
        ^^^Now regrets this comment^^^ (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, May 7, 18:18:13
        
        Your point is, Hoot's negative tactics may be getting the best points we can manage (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:59:59
        
        isn't adding more strikers a general managerial recation to being behind? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:06:30
        
        yes exactly. That is the only in-game tactical change I have seen from Hoot all season (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 14:07:51
        
        Incredible isn't it? (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:32:05
        
        Loads, yes, one or two today if you can be bothered to look (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:30:32
        
        Good balanced post. I admire your patience! (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 13:25:08
        
        I am sorry, but that home game to Newcastle where we settled for a point (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:22:11
        
        did we settle for a point? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:32:30
        
        If you cannot see Hoot's negative approach both in initial tactics (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:57:34
        
        I have stated quite clearly that I think our tactics are defensive (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:03:33
      - mutterings and concerns about crap tactics, poor subs started as far back as QPR at home. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:52:13
        
        so what? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:56:25
        
        Worse than the negative tactics and outlook. Is the play for a draw attitude. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:00:09
        
        West ham was even more of a shocker (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:53:58
      - Totally, what ^^^ he says. (NCFC) - Mozzer, May 7, 12:48:37
        
        And that's why we'll go down (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:49:42
        
        I haven't seen us give up (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:53:40
        
        we don't score.... We looked ok against a Villa side with a dreadful defence (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:55:48
        
        because our attacking players are to be honest poor by Prem standards (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:58:02
        
        They did fine last season. Hoot plays a defensive game (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:06:05
        
        history is littered with players who have had one exceptional Prem season (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:09:57
        
        Holt has had far far less shots on goal this season to last (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:12:39
        
        The effort is there (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:54:53
        
        why? because I have (NCFC) - Mozzer, May 7, 12:51:19
        
        No because you've settled for mediocrity (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:53:25
        
        I have no settled for mediocrity - haven't (NCFC) - Mozzer, May 7, 13:39:16
        
        no-one has settled for mediocrity (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:06:26
        
        Progress? Better players, less possession worse passing (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:10:15
        
        funny the people whingeing about not going back to the unbeaten run team (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:27:40
        
        He could have played the unbeaton run side. He chose not to. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 14:11:47
        
        how many times has he had the chance to? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:15:23
        
        Aside from Ruddy, plenty. In fact Whittaker was an integral part of that side (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 14:34:17
        
        I am a bit surprised Whittaker hasn't been back earlier (he started at arsenal) (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:54:06
        
        I have, I always do - it's much less hard work (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:10:07
      - Excuses (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:47:52
      - Quite a few of us have given failry detailed arguments (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 12:47:03
        
        recently i have seen posts blaming our relegation on referees... embarrassing (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:53:10
        
        I haven't seen anyone blaming our possible relegation entirely on referees (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:57:21
        
        There is a whole thread on the pinkun about it started by Chicken (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 14:00:35
        
        Oh, I don't go on there. (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:13:10
        
        We haven't been relegated - hth (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:10:40
      - I 100% agree. Sums up my thoughts pretty much spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 12:45:50
    - I dont agree (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 12:41:21
- If we stay up ill be fucking ecstatic (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, May 7, 12:18:10
  - Me too !! (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, May 7, 12:20:24

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