I haven't seen us give up

for instance we looked FAR more committed than Villa (under marvellous motivator Lambert) for most of Saturday's game - first to every 50-50 ball. Things changed when one of their players (and not even their best striker) scored a brilliant goal out of nothing. None of our players could have scored a goal like that. We weren't 'not up for it' or 'not trying to win' or any of that bullsh*t. The other team just had better players who managed to deliver.

Posted By: mr carra on May 7th 2013 at 12:53:40

Message Thread

Loving the early mutterings of, 'even if we stay up I'm not happy' (NCFC) - pants, May 7, 12:10:08
- You've been a bit quiet these last few days pants..... (NCFC) - South stand corner, May 7, 12:34:35
  - Despite having a stress fracture, I hobbled to the yeah yeah yeahs (NCFC) - pants, May 7, 13:41:37
    - Fair play to pants also (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:43:19
      - I'm still here (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, May 7, 14:59:14
        
        and me... (n/m) (NCFC) - Vivid Data Shark, May 7, 15:16:14
      - Well I appear to have pissed him off. I'm sorry if that's the case (NCFC) - pants, May 7, 13:49:33
        
        You haven't infuriated me (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:53:05
  - Spect he saw the Wrath was populated by (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 12:58:04
    - Nice one (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:00:48
      - A lot weren't. A lot were down right nasty. It's totally unnesseccary (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:04:22
        
        The whole I was right/you were wrong thing (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:06:35
        
        Spose but it's unpleasant and is probably the reason why quite a lot of posters stayed off (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:08:42
- It will be brilliant if we do stay up. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:27:33
- some here appear to be evolving into Wolves fans (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 12:18:20
  - yeah, people who don't rate Hoot's tactical genius must be ideots or scummers (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:28:16
    - certainly not idiots (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:44:18
      - But that's just utter nonsense (NCFC) - norway, May 7, 12:59:10
        
        they have indeed filled paragraph after paragraph (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:18:24
        
        To repeat (NCFC) - norway, May 7, 13:28:13
        
        give me a link to such a 'reasoned' post then (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:42:51
        
        tbf the huge majority ARE (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 13:37:36
        
        People have put forward *far* more in depth reasons than (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:25:27
        
        not you obviously (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:29:40
        
        Well that's just picking a fight. (n/m) (NCFC) - norway, May 7, 13:30:42
        
        no, I'm not (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:35:38
        
        ^^^Now regrets this comment^^^ (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, May 7, 18:18:13
        
        Your point is, Hoot's negative tactics may be getting the best points we can manage (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:59:59
        
        isn't adding more strikers a general managerial recation to being behind? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:06:30
        
        yes exactly. That is the only in-game tactical change I have seen from Hoot all season (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 14:07:51
        
        Incredible isn't it? (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:32:05
        
        Loads, yes, one or two today if you can be bothered to look (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 13:30:32
        
        Good balanced post. I admire your patience! (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 13:25:08
        
        I am sorry, but that home game to Newcastle where we settled for a point (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:22:11
        
        did we settle for a point? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:32:30
        
        If you cannot see Hoot's negative approach both in initial tactics (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:57:34
        
        I have stated quite clearly that I think our tactics are defensive (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:03:33
      - mutterings and concerns about crap tactics, poor subs started as far back as QPR at home. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:52:13
        
        so what? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:56:25
        
        Worse than the negative tactics and outlook. Is the play for a draw attitude. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:00:09
        
        West ham was even more of a shocker (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:53:58
      - Totally, what ^^^ he says. (NCFC) - Mozzer, May 7, 12:48:37
        
        And that's why we'll go down (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:49:42
        
        I haven't seen us give up (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:53:40
        
        we don't score.... We looked ok against a Villa side with a dreadful defence (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:55:48
        
        because our attacking players are to be honest poor by Prem standards (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:58:02
        
        They did fine last season. Hoot plays a defensive game (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:06:05
        
        history is littered with players who have had one exceptional Prem season (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:09:57
        
        Holt has had far far less shots on goal this season to last (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:12:39
        
        The effort is there (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:54:53
        
        why? because I have (NCFC) - Mozzer, May 7, 12:51:19
        
        No because you've settled for mediocrity (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:53:25
        
        I have no settled for mediocrity - haven't (NCFC) - Mozzer, May 7, 13:39:16
        
        no-one has settled for mediocrity (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:06:26
        
        Progress? Better players, less possession worse passing (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 13:10:15
        
        funny the people whingeing about not going back to the unbeaten run team (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:27:40
        
        He could have played the unbeaton run side. He chose not to. (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 14:11:47
        
        how many times has he had the chance to? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:15:23
        
        Aside from Ruddy, plenty. In fact Whittaker was an integral part of that side (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 14:34:17
        
        I am a bit surprised Whittaker hasn't been back earlier (he started at arsenal) (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:54:06
        
        I have, I always do - it's much less hard work (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:10:07
      - Excuses (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:47:52
      - Quite a few of us have given failry detailed arguments (NCFC) - duke of york, May 7, 12:47:03
        
        recently i have seen posts blaming our relegation on referees... embarrassing (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 12:53:10
        
        I haven't seen anyone blaming our possible relegation entirely on referees (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:57:21
        
        There is a whole thread on the pinkun about it started by Chicken (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 7, 14:00:35
        
        Oh, I don't go on there. (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:13:10
        
        We haven't been relegated - hth (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:10:40
      - I 100% agree. Sums up my thoughts pretty much spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 12:45:50
    - I dont agree (n/m) (NCFC) - South_West_Canary, May 7, 12:41:21
- If we stay up ill be fucking ecstatic (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, May 7, 12:18:10
  - Me too !! (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, May 7, 12:20:24

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