Yes, I was thinking this regarding lots of mentions of "Established Premier League club"

Since I've been watching football only Man Utd, Liverpool, Everton, Villa, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea haven't been relegated of the current top flight. All the big, traditional clubs? as well as Chelsea (sorry Karn)

So they're the only ones who are really established and Villa are doing their best to leave that group. Everyone else is only ever one or two bad organisational decisions away from relegation.

The best you can hope for is probably a Bolton/Wigan/Fulham style stay of 8-10 years.

Posted By: bird table, May 8, 11:25:59