My view...

Wagner actually did a decent job last season, and the people who suggest he did a hopeless one and it was all his fault are total muppets (it's the usual muppets to be fair). But that doesn't mean it was wrong to make a change. With the loss of parachute payments we needed a new youth based approach and that required a new coaching etc. setup that was more geared to that way of doing things.

Posted By: mr carra on February 12th 2025 at 08:28:18

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After reflecting on last night and reading down the board (NCFC) - Kev, Feb 12, 07:01:53
- Problem with the transition theory is that we have some persistent problems (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Feb 12, 08:28:46
  - It’s the centre midfield (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 12, 08:54:20
- My patience is starting to wear thin, I'm behind him but when you have a striker (NCFC) - Whyohwhy, Feb 12, 08:04:31
- I don't understand why so many seem to think JHT's piss smells of Acqua di Gio (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Feb 12, 07:56:11
  - You're one of a handful of posters keen on the same old straw man. (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 12, 08:01:47
    - I'm not claiming to be wiser than the pack at all. (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Feb 12, 08:11:57
      - My view... (NCFC) - mr carra, Feb 12, 08:28:18
        
        Can we please just use this post as a boilerplate response to the same awful posts on the (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 12, 09:04:56
        
        That seems fair enough (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Feb 12, 08:33:48
      - You said yesterday Hoff throws his players … (NCFC) - loz, Feb 12, 08:21:32
  - There is a limit to what a manager can do (NCFC) - mr carra, Feb 12, 08:00:24
    - The strange thing was, other than some poor passes, very poor, I think the players (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 12, 08:22:42
      - Minus Kenny and emi not very streetwise though … (NCFC) - loz, Feb 12, 08:24:03
    - The manager's job is to get the best out of the players and play to their strengths (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Feb 12, 08:01:15
- It’s a transition season (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 12, 07:17:36
  - Transition season? What does that really mean if you don’t end up somewhere else? (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 12, 07:43:16
    - Massive personnel changes and a new manager (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 12, 08:24:01
    - Transitioning from play-off contenders to mid-table bang averageness (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Feb 12, 07:57:38
      - Funny (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 12, 07:59:14
    - I think it's basically because we've shipped out quite a lot of experience (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 12, 07:49:08
      - I agree but we owe it to ourselves to remember what we’re told during these periods (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 12, 07:57:35
        
        That has to be one of the youngest teams we’ve fielded in a long time (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 12, 08:15:29
        
        Entirely fair (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 12, 08:04:11
        
        I have never successfully performed a cartwheel, although in my retirement I could learn (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 12, 08:25:38
        
        I think my cartwheeling window may have passed. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 12, 09:05:48
        
        It's slammed shut (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 12, 10:45:32
    - Transition in the sense … (NCFC) - loz, Feb 12, 07:46:55
      - I know but a (n/m) (NCFC) - Augustus Pablo, Feb 12, 07:49:53
  - Yes, this - all day long (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 12, 07:38:00
  - Yea this I’m not bothered about play offs I would like to see… (NCFC) - loz, Feb 12, 07:21:31
    - The key, I think, is a settled midfield three (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 12, 07:30:05
      - Seems pretty clear than Nunez departs in summer though ?… (NCFC) - loz, Feb 12, 07:38:13
    - Yeah, the constant enforced changes... (NCFC) - mr carra, Feb 12, 07:25:30
- Fair. I'm still well behind him but last night was utter shite! (NCFC) - JD3, Feb 12, 07:13:24
  - We still lack someone in the middle to link the defenders to the attackers (NCFC) - mr carra, Feb 12, 07:22:46
    - I would say it was the role leitner / Vrancic / skipp played (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 12, 09:35:36
  - 🍆 (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Feb 12, 07:16:39

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