Yes, I agree that they are

But my point was just that the current perception is that we're on the right track now and this is a blip caused by injuries (which is what you're saying too).

Whether that's right or not can only be judged with the benefit of hindsight; it might not just be a honeymoon period thing if the perception is correct.

I don't think the view was inherently wrong that Wagner wasn't the right man to take us forward, even if the judgement of him in the injury ravaged spell last season was overly harsh.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on November 11th 2024 at 14:49:06

Message Thread

This years injury hit team vs last years injury hit team… (NCFC) - loz, Nov 11, 09:43:07
- Well. There are only two players who started both games. Coincidence? (n/m) (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, Nov 11, 12:57:48
- Clearly last year's (NCFC) - mr carra, Nov 11, 10:41:16
  - Yes, we'll be rubbish-to-indifferent through Xmas I think (NCFC) - Old Man, Nov 11, 10:42:54
- Kenny was at centre-back wasn't he? (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 11, 09:54:32
  - Think playing Kenny at Cb helped to arrest the decline … (NCFC) - loz, Nov 11, 10:03:27
    - McLean was not at CB until mid-Dec (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 11, 12:41:49
      - Expectations were higher last season (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 11, 12:56:39
        
        Both points have some merit. But we are clearly in a honeymoon period (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 11, 13:27:28
        
        Only time will tell whether it's a honeymoon period or not (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 11, 13:36:46
        
        No. We are clearly in a honeymoon period, both for Knapper & the coaching staff (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 11, 13:56:23
        
        We have different definitions of honeymoon periods, then (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 11, 13:59:58
        
        So you think that Wagner & JHT are being equally judged? (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 11, 14:27:41
        
        Yes, I agree that they are (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 11, 14:49:06
        
        Agreed. (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 11, 15:04:02
        
        Yes, it was bad. Really whipping up the negativity (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 11, 15:20:27
        
        Yes, and Webber was toxic, let's not forget that (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Nov 11, 16:00:02
        
        And even that had similar origins (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Nov 11, 16:14:15
    - Playing Kenny at CB was the only way Wagner could get Nunez in the team (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 11, 10:52:40
    - Sarge didn't play until Jan and still wasn't fit enough to play a full match (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 11, 10:23:13
      - So played an integral part in unbeaten run then glad we agree (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 11, 11:11:01
- Last seasons comfortably (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Nov 11, 09:54:27
  - Was the squad Farke had that bad? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 11, 11:03:07
    - We didn't have a decent striker (NCFC) - Dracula, Nov 11, 12:49:37
      - Oliveira & Jerome were decent strikers per se, but... (NCFC) - mr carra, Nov 11, 12:58:20
        
        Totally forgot we still had Jerome still (NCFC) - Dracula, Nov 11, 13:48:36
    - True it probably wasn't as bad as current one but it underperformed massively (n/m) (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Nov 11, 11:45:55
    - No but then in Farke's first year we were still receiving parachute payments (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Nov 11, 11:37:06
      - Indeed - just rebutting the suggestion that Farke operated on as meagre rations as this (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 11, 11:44:22
  - Calling Hwang a recognised striker is a bit of a stretch (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 11, 09:58:36
    - Not now anyway (n/m) (NCFC) - Lentil Weaver, Nov 11, 10:56:37
    - TBF 70% of that fee is based on his video collection (n/m) (NCFC) - inutero, Nov 11, 10:00:05
      - Tbf he scored a few (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 11, 10:01:01
        
        He scored 3 (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 11, 10:03:23
        
        IIRC he was just starting to show some glimpses and it ended (NCFC) - Old Man, Nov 11, 10:24:29
        
        A few then (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 11, 10:20:54
        
        Very few (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 11, 10:24:50
        
        More than anyone bar Sargent and sainz this year then ? (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 11, 10:05:03
        
        No-one else has played 17 games yet (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 11, 10:09:40
        
        True fair few of those must have been sub appearances … (NCFC) - loz, Nov 11, 10:11:18
        
        Certainly a better striker than Marcondes !!! (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 11, 10:05:56
        
        Crnac was signed as someone that can play number 9 (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Nov 11, 10:50:54
        
        Schwartau also played that position on occasion for Brondby (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Nov 11, 10:55:59
        
        Shocking that the current regime allowed us to be in the position (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Nov 11, 10:16:18
        
        Please see post about Crnac (n/m) (NCFC) - maidstoneyellow, Nov 11, 10:51:17
        
        Markedly smaller budget this season minus parachutes I guess (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 11, 10:19:18
        
        Or just shit sporting g director?? (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Nov 11, 10:41:24
        
        Webber was certainly disrespected by many (not me) (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Nov 11, 11:03:48

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