Or maybe Labour can foresee that risk

And use their huge majority for radical change and to do something for the sorts of people that are flocking to Reform.

We all know immigration isn't the problem - it's lack of housing, schools, infrastructure, growth, etc. Fix all that and no-one will care about immigration.

But unless Labour grasps the nettle, the easy sell in 5 years will be that immigration is an even worse problem now and Labour couldn't fix it. But Farage will, etc.

Posted By: CWC on July 4th 2024 at 23:44:44

Message Thread

Great night for labour, but a worrying night for politics in this countrt (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 4, 23:21:29
- It's clear that Labour will need to work harder to unify the nation (General Chat) - MonkeyPuzzle, Jul 4, 23:26:19
  - It’s already been going longer than 5 years (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 4, 23:30:42
  - Or we look at Europe, and see what the future holds if things don't change (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Jul 4, 23:27:16
    - Behaviour needs to come from the bottom and not the top it would appear (General Chat) - MonkeyPuzzle, Jul 4, 23:38:35
      - If you are talking migration (General Chat) - phrankin, Jul 4, 23:45:05
        
        Clearly the Tory management of immigration/migration has been a huge failure (General Chat) - MonkeyPuzzle, Jul 4, 23:50:31
        
        We could try the social democrats of Denmark's plan (General Chat) - phrankin, Jul 4, 23:52:21
        
        Well lets face it, even the 'tolerant' seldom integrate (General Chat) - MonkeyPuzzle, Jul 4, 23:58:40
- What's the fear, populists are in charge in Italy. (General Chat) - phrankin, Jul 4, 23:23:47
  - The worry for me would be that what the exit polls are showing…. (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 4, 23:36:14
    - Or maybe Labour can foresee that risk (General Chat) - CWC, Jul 4, 23:44:44
      - 5 years in a struggling economy doesn’t feel like long enough to do that to me (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 4, 23:49:51
    - It's not really a secret that Farage fancies a reverse takeover of the Tories (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 4, 23:39:04
    - But loads of Tories aren’t far right (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jul 4, 23:39:01
      - No, of course you’re right. But would they shift to labour? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 4, 23:42:32
        
        Centrist Tories seem to be switching to Lib Dems? (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jul 4, 23:44:51
        
        Yeah, true (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 4, 23:46:11
        
        A lot of career Politicians are opportunist and will jump ship at the drop of a hat. (n/m) (General Chat) - promethian1, Jul 4, 23:44:51
      - Where do they go - lib dems? (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 4, 23:42:05
        
        Indeed (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jul 4, 23:43:30
        
        Well plenty say Labour are now what the Tories were 🤷‍♂️ (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jul 4, 23:50:29
      - Populist Right is not exactly the Far Right of old (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Jul 4, 23:40:55
  - Not sure I’d ever look to Italy for political direction (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jul 4, 23:27:36
    - Haha (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jul 4, 23:30:27

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