Things have got worse for everyone under the Tories

Well, all working people at least. I've no idea what it's meant for the wealthy non-working "elite".

I'm sure some of it is down to their policies, but the broader macro issues cannot be ignored.

I struggle to believe there will be any fundamental change under a Labour government.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on June 12th 2024 at 12:00:00

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Me too Rishi, me too (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 07:09:22
- For the majority of my childhood we didn’t even have a television… (General Chat) - Ruttles, Jun 12, 12:14:10
- 100 👌 (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:28:15
  - Well Over - I'm 2000 miles away on hols but still looked at the thread.... (General Chat) - Saucerer, Jun 12, 14:04:12
  - You've earned a new badge (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 12, 11:53:29
  - Congrats 👏 (n/m) (General Chat) - JD3, Jun 12, 11:39:49
    - Could reach 1000 (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:46:21
      - Not unless essex comes back (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 12, 11:55:36
        
        Is the Oil Rig bloke involved yet? (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 12, 11:58:26
        
        Just the same old blubbering mess who continue to post politics (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jun 12, 13:31:49
        
        Yes, he said they're all the same and no politician has a clue about sacrifice. (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 12:03:00
        
        Blub (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jun 12, 13:32:43
  - FAO Ben. Politics post, please delete. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 12, 11:31:06
    - VMT (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Jun 12, 12:32:38
    - Ha was going smoothly until a couple of responses (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:34:24
- What a world we’d live in now, he’d have a dodgy iptv fire stick now (n/m) (General Chat) - littletinyphil, Jun 12, 10:18:57
- Codswallop…. (General Chat) - Eric Morecambe, Jun 12, 09:48:19
  - and to balance that post out (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 12, 09:54:49
    - Sorry, but the old ‘they’re all the same’ line is bollocks. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Jun 12, 11:01:17
      - I really struggle to see who life has got better for in recent times, to be honest (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jun 12, 12:05:17
        
        I always think you try to do better than your parents and leave the place better for your (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jun 12, 12:35:42
      - Absolutely this. It is a line straight from the rightwing playbook. (n/m) (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 12, 11:08:32
        
        if I was in power (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 11:12:44
        
        Straight out of the WOTB playbook. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Jun 12, 11:18:45
    - No politician has a clue about any form of hardship/sacrifice? (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 10:31:13
      - and if you think it will get better ... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 12, 10:35:39
        
        Here is a list of the things that New Labour did when in power (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 12, 10:59:49
        
        If things were so much better for so many people (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jun 12, 13:10:49
        
        A combination of factors (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 12, 13:41:23
        
        They weren't. There was no-one with a majority and Clegg wouldn't work with Brown (General Chat) - Ruttles, Jun 12, 13:28:21
        
        Labour won 91 fewer seats. That is a clear vote of no confidence. (n/m) (General Chat) - Henclrikus, Jun 12, 13:55:03
        
        It was all the fault of (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 12, 14:05:41
        
        Exactly, and Osborne is the root of all that is wrong now, (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 12, 13:37:05
        
        ...and Britpop! (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jun 12, 11:12:01
        
        Pretty sure it the weather was better back then too. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 12, 11:04:19
        
        I genuinely hope things improve since I live here (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:51:43
        
        To be fair most think it’s the fault of immigrants (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jun 12, 11:33:18
        
        ... (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 12, 11:50:57
        
        But lots of government's do provide good quality services for their people (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 12, 11:04:15
        
        ^^^ VMT^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 12, 10:58:47
        
        Not being cunts would be a start tbh (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:55:07
        
        We're certainly not all going to wake up in a utopia (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 12, 10:52:49
        
        the corbyn/manifesto that starmer thought was marvellous, until he didn't (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:56:54
        
        Collective responsibility is a thing in government / shadow government (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 12, 11:01:44
        
        it is, but starmer has expressed wildly different views about all sorts of things (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 11:11:26
        
        Have you ever changed your mind? (n/m) (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Jun 12, 11:38:21
        
        I don't know whether or how much things will improve (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 10:38:15
        
        It’s not really about getting better (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:37:52
        
        Things have got worse for everyone under the Tories (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jun 12, 12:00:00
        
        Then hopefully some good music will come out of it! (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jun 12, 10:40:51
        
        Another burst of landfill indie? (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 10:45:07
        
        Probably a lot of AI stuff (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:44:12
    - Tory (n/m) (General Chat) - big member, Jun 12, 10:03:26
    - A bit like Norwich (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 09:57:41
      - We need to get a younger, hungrier, exciting scandinavian prime minister in (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 12, 10:08:03
        
        Russell Martin isn’t Scandinavian (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:10:10
- Does he still wear these ?…. (General Chat) - loz, Jun 12, 09:40:03
- He seems desperate to get out and get his £115k pa PDCDA (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 12, 09:06:33
  - He's just rubbish at politics. Over promoted. (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 12, 09:25:45
    - yes; completely pointless pretending one's past was not what it was (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:23:06
    - Least he answered the question all be it painfully (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jun 12, 09:34:42
      - Question answer of the campaign for me (and it's lean pickings) is (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jun 12, 10:27:36
        
        complete psychopath or a liar as far as I can see (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:38:21
        
        Obviously he wouldn't. Which is why it was such a ridiculous thing to say. (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jun 12, 11:31:45
        
        6 weeks? You'll be lucky (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 12, 11:42:06
        
        Depends where you live. I phoned up for a non urgent appointment yesterday (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 12, 13:14:18
        
        It’s not 1947 (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:42:24
        
        he said (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:54:18
        
        What are the quotes for that? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:09:17
        
        ... (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 11:17:19
        
        Yeah that’s just the waiting list stuff then (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:27:53
        
        the question made perfect sense, and he clearly understood it; his answer was bizarre (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 11:30:38
        
        why is it bizarre? (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 12, 11:55:56
        
        It was clarified as being on a waiting list (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:38:47
        
        If only! (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 10:43:26
        
        And everyone was happy (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:46:50
        
        I think that generally, people were happier and much safer (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:58:38
        
        Yes everything was super safe back then tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:06:20
        
        not super safe, but not scarily unsafe, and very definitely different (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 11:09:04
        
        Now and again (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:11:51
        
        ... (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 11:20:35
        
        A sympton of a broken country (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:32:11
        
        I have thought of moving yes, to a small village where I'd turn off the internet (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 11:38:10
        
        They’re getting rid of poo bins around here (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:47:50
        
        throw into a neighbour's garden, or spread it round the veg patch (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 12:10:21
        
        you have poo bins ....... what will people do when they walk their dogs (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 12, 12:05:44
        
        or hang it on a tree (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 12, 13:17:36
        
        I live in london (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 11:18:02
        
        Hard luck. I just spent 4 days there looking after grand kids (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 12, 13:19:11
        
        I know… (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 11:29:04
        
        Haha london... try kings street or St Peters road in GY (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Jun 12, 11:11:37
        
        point of order ..... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 12, 10:32:40
        
        Maybe he really hates them (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:29:41
        
        Come now - he's prepared to make a sacrifice! (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 10:35:55
        
        lol (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:39:08
      - Surprised he didn't bring out the 'my dad was a tool maker' line (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jun 12, 09:50:55
      - The country is fucked because of 14 years of Tory. (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 12, 09:50:49
        
        Yep tinpot cunts (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 09:58:42
        
        Exactly 14 years of shite and still making excuses (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Jun 12, 10:01:51
        
        I can understand why a lot are like that though (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:08:12
        
        almost like people generally (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:35:05
    - To be fair, what can he say in response to that and not get ridiculed (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 12, 09:31:13
      - the lib dems are genuine village idiots (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:36:32
        
        Far more memorable than any other party to be fair (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 10:39:46
        
        He's playing a blinder (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 12, 10:43:08
        
        Yep (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 10:45:56
      - He could say he was fortunate that he had everything he needed (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 12, 09:40:08
        
        Exactly this. Not having SKY is not a sacrifice. (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Jun 12, 10:13:57
        
        I guess that's the point (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 12, 10:16:50
        
        it's not being "out of touch" because of his background (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:43:13
        
        He's "out of touch" with people who are struggling to make ends meet (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 10:49:12
        
        he is ridiculously bad at politics, and it was a ridiculous comment (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:59:30
        
        Yup (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 12, 11:07:53
        
        Well, you could always educate yourself about those things (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 12, 10:45:14
        
        Yep I mean how fucking hard is it (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 10:00:19
      - PS I really wanted a soda stream but was never allowed one (n/m) (General Chat) - Jim, Jun 12, 09:32:16
        
        I wanted a Raleigh Chopper (n/m) (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jun 12, 09:51:16
        
        I had a tomahawk, but never a chopper (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 12, 10:45:37
        
        2nd gear always slipped (n/m) (General Chat) - Adster, Jun 12, 09:59:24
        
        An all time classic. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 12, 09:53:39
- Man of the people (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jun 12, 08:41:47
- When I was young we used to have to save up just to be poor (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 12, 07:42:50
  - We couldn't afford to be young (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jun 12, 08:47:06
    - We couldn’t afford middle names (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jun 12, 09:01:34
      - You had names?! (n/m) (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jun 12, 09:18:29
- I remember when we got a video recorder in the 80’s (General Chat) - inutero, Jun 12, 07:18:33
  - Anyone have betamax? (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 12, 08:56:18
    - My grandad had a video 2000 (General Chat) - littletinyphil, Jun 12, 14:13:07
    - Only the rich and privileged (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jun 12, 09:04:50
    - WWII (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Jun 12, 09:01:47
  - I reckon it's just spin. He probably had a bsb squarial. (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jun 12, 08:13:53
    - He wanted to buy the company (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 12, 08:15:38
  - My first VHS was a top loader with a wired remote control. It was an old cheap second hand (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 12, 07:47:57
    - Same here, our massive thing had hydraulic rams opening the lid and a wired controller (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jun 12, 09:19:35
    - You had a bed? (n/m) (General Chat) - Captain Bligh, Jun 12, 08:37:24
      - Come round (n/m) (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 12, 10:48:42
      - He's going to say he had time to sleep next (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Jun 12, 08:47:51
  - I know it sounds a cliché but we had a Betamax and as much as I tried to defend my dad’s (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jun 12, 07:43:04
    - Me too. Still feel the shame… (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorcee, Jun 12, 08:30:12
    - It's the Betashack on Silver Rd I felt for (General Chat) - inutero, Jun 12, 08:22:02
      - Bless them. I later used VideoJocks on Stafford st and I now park just up from there (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jun 12, 08:27:46

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