No, not at all

I was disappointed with our tail off in form with the injuries.

But equally, I think we're seeing decent results now that players are back and some of the new faces are more settled (Sainz).

I don't think he's got masses of credit in the bank, but he's doing alright and the level of criticism he's facing is out of all proportion to the results and circumstances.

You defended Smith to the hilt on the back of xG. Great. I'm less convinced of that as a metric, but think that a good number of our players have improved both individually (and collectively) under Wagner. I thought, in the main, they were deteriorating under Smith.

Happy to have a debate with you on these kind of things, but you don't seem to go much deeper than you *think* we should be doing better on the basis of your promotion %ages (which seem to just be your gut feeling) or on the basis of xG, which, as previously discussed, seems to vary quite widely depending on who provides the stats input. Not much depth in that debate tho.

So maybe we should just agree to disagree.

Posted By: Cardiff Canary on February 17th 2024 at 13:44:01

Message Thread

Maybe I am alone but.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 17, 12:50:09
- Tbf if Knapper is lining up his replacement, the media reporting is just facts (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 17, 13:18:51
  - I want what’s best for the fans (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Feb 17, 13:20:31
    - Yes, I’m indifferent about wagner (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 17, 13:22:29
      - He’s on a massive wage, pressure comes with that (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Feb 17, 14:14:54
- Agreed. And (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Feb 17, 13:14:17
  - Morale of the fans should be good today (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 17, 13:30:42
- I’m convinced people only want to keep him (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 17, 13:05:57
  - I'm convinced people only want him sacked (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 17, 13:22:17
    - Improving a bit from shite isn’t good enough I’m afraid (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 17, 13:27:01
      - I think he's a better manager than Smith (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 17, 13:35:19
        
        He could well be tbh (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 17, 13:43:57
        
        Peter Grant was 41 and had no managerial experience either (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Feb 17, 14:13:34
        
        The Arsenal fella has zero track record... (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 17, 14:08:10
        
        I don’t know who the next manager will be, but it won’t be knutsen (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 17, 13:38:08
        
        The Arsenal chap could be nifty (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 17, 13:47:15
        
        Exactly. I'm data driven and he has no record of anything... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 17, 14:09:04
    - That's really very silly. (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 17, 13:26:28
      - Wagner knows what he’s doing because we beat Watford apparently (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 17, 13:33:00
        
        No, not at all (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 17, 13:44:01
        
        I said the stick was ridiculous when winning most weeks (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 17, 13:46:35
        
        I think it’s possible to be happy to see him go at the end of the season.. (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 17, 13:36:26
        
        Indeed - what I don't much like is the reduction of well articulated arguments (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 17, 13:37:48
        
        You're right (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 17, 14:49:23
        
        While supporting him now (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 17, 13:36:38
  - Most people, like myself are indifferent. (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 17, 13:12:30
    - Want him gone because of results (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 17, 13:29:28
    - i’m afraid the one thing you are is indifferent (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Feb 17, 13:17:23
- I am not a fan of Wagner in the slightest but agree with this. He’s (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Feb 17, 13:03:32
  - Quackner! (n/m) (NCFC) - Bristol Graham, Feb 17, 13:18:45
- I am not a fan of Wagner in the slightest but agree with this. He’s (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, Feb 17, 13:03:09

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