Well, just as a good coach can get more out of average players with the right system,

making them look better than they are (or indeed allowing them to be as good as they are), a good coach can also have the same but negative effect on an opponent.

So maybe Wagner simply employed genius-level tactics and game plan to render Hirst ineffective.

Posted By: Legacy Fan on December 18th 2023 at 10:20:15

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I'll tell you one thing about the scum... (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 18, 08:42:19
- Funny how the only other team to take points at Portman Rowed is... (Other Football) - Trent_Canary, Dec 18, 10:41:52
- Actually I can tell you another thing (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:48:24
  - Their team all appear to be greasy chavs, which is fitting given the town they represent (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Dec 18, 09:49:39
    - Yep thuggish greasy scrotey chavs (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:55:40
      - Yet surprisingly for a supposedly tough team they went down very easily (n/m) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 18, 09:58:40
        
        diving thuggish greasy scrotey chavs (n/m) (Other Football) - fleckmatic, Dec 18, 10:04:32
        
        Clarke the full back looked particularly obnoxious (n/m) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 18, 10:14:15
        
        Obnoxious diving thuggish greasy scrotey chav? (n/m) (Other Football) - Captain Bligh, Dec 18, 10:39:41
        
        He's one of them, born and bread. that will be why (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Dec 18, 10:29:15
        
        bred sorry! (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Dec 18, 10:29:27
        
        I liked him! (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 10:23:23
- I'll tell you another thing (Other Football) - Captain Bligh, Dec 18, 09:04:27
  - You are so right! All the legal Ippos in my life are very bitter indeed (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 09:27:56
    - what about the illegal ippos in your life? (Other Football) - Tombs, Dec 18, 10:46:36
      - Ha ha (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 10:50:22
        
        being a bit equivocal I thought (n/m) (Other Football) - paulg, Dec 18, 11:43:29
        
        thought it prudent to reign it in, daytime audience and all that (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, Dec 18, 12:27:44
    - Thick fucks then as both goals were fine (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 10:37:59
    - Every derby game, no matter how good or bad either team is form- wise (Other Football) - Captain Bligh, Dec 18, 10:34:44
      - 14 years of hurt (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 11:00:48
- I guess it's a circumstance of where the two clubs are/were (Other Football) - Yellalee, Dec 18, 08:48:27
- Yes, they’re a bit like Lambert’s dogs of war (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 08:47:35
  - Yes, they're this year's Luton,play at a very high tempo and (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Dec 18, 10:41:46
  - Totally agree. (Other Football) - ShamedSeamus, Dec 18, 10:10:49
  - They aren't better than that. They have had incredibly amounts of luck and but they also (Other Football) - Jim, Dec 18, 09:47:41
    - Luck in what way exactly? (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:50:37
      - No major injuries, cov missed a pen last week and missed chances (Other Football) - Jim, Dec 18, 09:59:14
        
        I think you’re a bit biased against them (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 10:10:41
        
        Of course I am. They are sc*m c*nts and I hate them (Other Football) - Jim, Dec 18, 10:28:40
  - Yeah I don't think their players are any better than ours - it's all a matter of coaching! (n/m) (Other Football) - JD3, Dec 18, 09:01:35
  - Agreed. They weren't all that, were they? (Other Football) - jamesward, Dec 18, 09:00:51
    - Unlike Jim, who would take Norwich to the champions league, given half a chance (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 18, 09:13:35
      - Easy job (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Dec 18, 10:04:14
    - 2.36 points per game is not to be sniffed at (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:12:37
      - Yep , They will have a bad run (Other Football) - Pam Demic, Dec 18, 09:18:42
      - I knew someone would miss the point (Other Football) - jamesward, Dec 18, 09:16:46
        
        Spectacular missing of the point even by Mikey’s standards (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 09:30:53
        
        They created plenty (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:43:02
        
        It tells me that too (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 09:56:59
        
        So you didn’t see any quality (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 10:00:38
        
        No, not really (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 10:08:46
        
        A good coach can get ordinary players to play above themselves (Other Football) - jamesward, Dec 18, 10:01:42
        
        Certainly agree they have no magician (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 10:22:57
        
        Well done for finally catching up with the beginning of this thread (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 10:49:06
        
        I agreed with most of it (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 10:59:31
        
        Blub accepted (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 11:23:25
        
        No coach can ever get any player playing above themselves (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Dec 18, 10:16:26
        
        I was pleased to see how average Hirst is. He's no Holty. (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Dec 18, 10:02:45
        
        Well, just as a good coach can get more out of average players with the right system, (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Dec 18, 10:20:15
        
        That was it (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 10:10:29
        
        I was expecting Leif Davis to be the second coming of Roberto Carlos (Other Football) - jamesward, Dec 18, 10:14:56
        
        I’d never heard of any of their team (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 10:23:28
        
        They were definitely below par (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:22:27
        
        The only game I've seen of theirs was Sunderland away (Other Football) - jamesward, Dec 18, 09:26:42
        
        Well in the week they narrowly beat the hornets... (Other Football) - Lager top, Dec 18, 09:36:20
        
        3 (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Dec 18, 09:37:08
        
        Was first game of the season though (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:30:26
        
        Looking at the highlights, their best first half chances came from McCallum (Other Football) - Old Git, Dec 18, 09:36:24
        
        We normally give up more than 16 shots tbf (Other Football) - jamesward, Dec 18, 09:36:21
        
        Hopefully we put in a similar effort in the non derbies (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:45:45
        
        What was the XG? (n/m) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 18, 09:32:45
        
        Sunderland created more (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:44:39
        
        I meant yesterday (n/m) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 18, 09:47:36
        
        Saturday I hope (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 09:53:33
        
        So they didn't score more than they should have... (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Dec 18, 09:58:06
        
        We were just lucky, yet again! (Other Football) - SCC 28, Dec 18, 10:30:06
        
        I meant fewer... (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Dec 18, 09:58:20
        
        Ta. Yeah that and that fact that they missed some good chances (n/m) (Other Football) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 18, 09:57:46
        
        We always seemed to have a lot of injuries (n/m) (Other Football) - Jumbo1, Dec 18, 09:21:26

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