Broad not walking was wrong in my view, but two wrongs don’t make a right

I just don’t really like where it’s going. Mankad is a similar thing although one could argue there that the batsman is at least trying to gain an advantage by moving from their crease early.

Ultimately, you generally want to see great sporting contests settled by skill and ability wherever possible and we were denied a bit of that yesterday. That said, England probably played better because of the resentment so we need to bottle that for the rest of the series.

If I had to be super critical yesterday I also thought Stokes, magnificent as he was, should have trusted Broad and taken the easy singles that were on offer for long periods when they had everyone back on the boundary. You can’t chase down 120 runs purely in 6’s. They must have turned down at least 20-30 easy runs and we all know the pressure changes once the target is down below 40 as opposed to 70/80.

Posted By: Jim on July 3rd 2023 at 12:12:34

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Having had a night to sleep on it, I'm still fuming about the Aussies cheating (n/m) (Other Sports) - Basil Wrathbone, Jul 3, 07:51:26
- FFS you are alive and it's nice outside... (Other Sports) - usacanary, Jul 3, 16:53:19
- Not a cricket fan but (Other Sports) - ParrotPuncher, Jul 3, 12:45:56
  - The obvious attempt to provoke and antagonistic wording aside (Other Sports) - Captain Bligh, Jul 3, 16:21:03
    - There'd be a degree of justification just because its them, off the back of the sandpaper (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 16:24:21
  - You're talking bollocks. (n/m) (Other Sports) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jul 3, 13:03:49
    - Don't bother Proth, not worth your time/blood pressure! (n/m) (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 13:21:09
    - Not really, if it was the other way around you'd be laughing and celebrating (Other Sports) - ParrotPuncher, Jul 3, 13:10:09
  - ^^ do not feed the troll ^^ (n/m) (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 12:47:03
    - Old men raging in the clubhouse, privileged entitled moaning hypocrites (n/m) (Other Sports) - ParrotPuncher, Jul 3, 12:50:11
- Its not cheating in the sense its within the laws but I agree it was grubby and (Other Sports) - Jim, Jul 3, 11:35:21
  - This is just the Aussie way (Other Sports) - Under soil heating, Jul 3, 11:53:00
    - VMT, we shouldn't go full Aussie, but we do need to be more aware that they will! (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 12:12:39
      - I’d love to see us Mankad Carey (Other Sports) - Old Git, Jul 3, 13:17:28
        
        Ha ha that would be funny! If there was a god he'd have made him trip over his own feet (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 13:21:54
    - Broad not walking was wrong in my view, but two wrongs don’t make a right (Other Sports) - Jim, Jul 3, 12:12:34
      - Going off on a tangent.... (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 12:45:46
      - I also don’t like this new short bowling trend (Other Sports) - Jim, Jul 3, 12:14:11
        
        Tedious isn't it, but seemed to be effective. Although should have bowled at the stumps (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 12:59:48
- We should just bowl some grass cutters underarm (Other Sports) - Poirot, Jul 3, 10:07:39
  - Hopefully Wood is fit for Headingley to give Carey some chin music (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jul 3, 10:10:59
- Carey's got form for cheap like this too,he shoulder barged one of our bowlers to avoid b (Other Sports) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jul 3, 10:02:21
- All very ungentlemanly but when have the Aussies ever been known for being gentlemanly. (n/m) (Other Sports) - DrDublin, Jul 3, 09:55:17
  - what I really hated about the bairstow dismissal (Other Sports) - paulg, Jul 3, 09:57:49
    - Yeah, it's a nod to the opposition that "I'm not trying to run" (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jul 3, 09:59:51
  - The great big mulleted gallah's. (n/m) (Other Sports) - DrDublin, Jul 3, 09:56:45
- It was immensely fucking shitty, but not cheating (Other Sports) - paulg, Jul 3, 09:52:09
- I could look back but what was the Wrath opinion on the Duckett/Starc catch? (n/m) (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 09:38:32
  - I feel like i've entered some sort of parallel universe where you can let the ball hit (Other Sports) - Jim, Jul 3, 11:38:06
  - Curious one. Starc was wiggling his fingers indicating that they were under the ball... (Other Sports) - Basil Wrathbone, Jul 3, 11:25:46
  - Stark wasn't in control of his body as sliding and needed his hand (ball) for stability (n/m) (Other Sports) - Gazzaman, Jul 3, 09:59:46
  - That was more like cheating imo (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jul 3, 09:41:48
- More importantly what did they have for lunch? (n/m) (Other Sports) - Adster, Jul 3, 09:36:27
  - I’d imagine a decent amount of spit (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 09:44:34
- You might want to search Labuschagne on twitter before getting too cross... (Other Sports) - 2KruhltobeKind, Jul 3, 09:01:56
  - Not the same at all. labuschange batting outside his crease (Other Sports) - Jim, Jul 3, 11:39:15
  - Its not the same thing. I don't think Carey cheated, but it is a little shitty (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 09:20:57
    - It's not cheating, but nor's a Mankad (n/m) (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 09:24:24
      - Yeah that's about ut,I think it's worse than a mankad really as you can see Ba irstow,touc (Other Sports) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jul 3, 09:35:11
        
        I think the Mankad is becoming more acceptable TBH, at least in the short formats (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 11:09:44
        
        Crappy way to get it, but they are very much win at all costs. (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 09:37:27
        
        Agreed, proth. At least with a Mankad the batsman is trying to sneak an advantage (n/m) (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 09:36:11
    - Bairstow had been doing it regularly so Carey (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jul 3, 09:23:33
      - Agreed, sneaky is a good word. Its a really shit way to get a wicket. (n/m) (Other Sports) - megson, Jul 3, 09:36:48
  - Circumstances are everything,if he played and missed and was leaning out of his ground (Other Sports) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jul 3, 09:14:09
    - Think Labuschagne was batting out of his crease (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jul 3, 09:17:47
      - Totally (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 09:24:00
        
        Exactly. Sneaky, but obviously out (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jul 3, 09:25:38
    - He has a point (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 09:16:35
      - Nah, completely different situation (n/m) (Other Sports) - jamesward, Jul 3, 09:18:18
        
        But the batsman still left it (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 09:22:53
        
        No- he was out of his crease when JB threw the ball (n/m) (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 09:26:04
        
        I can’t tell from that vid (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jul 3, 09:32:40
        
        Yes, you're right, it's hard to tell (Other Sports) - SimonOTBC, Jul 3, 09:35:43
- You don't know fuming until you've had your tweet read count (Other Sports) - Captain Bligh, Jul 3, 08:06:46
- It wasn’t cheating it was clever play and England were not smart enough. (Other Sports) - Boyer, Jul 3, 08:00:48
  - Cricket (Other Sports) - letsbehavinyou, Jul 3, 08:44:49
- Australia have learned nothing from sandpaper gate. They will never change. (n/m) (Other Sports) - WalksietheReturn, Jul 3, 07:56:39

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