but the whole thing is a philosophical issue

30k deaths during a severe flu epidemic = not worthy of any precautions. While possibly hundreds of thousands of deaths = isolate everyone for months.

Where is the line drawn between the scenarios? It is all about balancing risk against over-mitigating, and where the line is drawn will be very different for different people. I think calling people selfish for not reacting how you think is most appropriate is ridiculous. If they were breaking a government imposed lockdown aimed at eradicating the virus, that would be different - because then it would be a legal issue. Right now though, there is no such thing in place in the UK.

Posted By: Mecagoenti on March 17th 2020 at 16:35:22

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Fuck it, now it's getting real, and a bit annoying. (Coronavirus) - tudders, Mar 17, 14:39:50
- 💛💚👍😘 (n/m) (Coronavirus) - Jumbo1, Mar 17, 19:43:34
- As the others have said, good luck (n/m) (Coronavirus) - Old Splat, Mar 17, 15:13:44
- Best of luck (n/m) (Coronavirus) - duke of york, Mar 17, 15:00:00
- Goodluck Tudds. 👍 (n/m) (Coronavirus) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 17, 14:53:05
- Good luck (Coronavirus) - CWC, Mar 17, 14:47:16
  - my in-laws are carrying on as if nothing has happened (Coronavirus) - Tombs, Mar 17, 14:53:19
    - Have given up on mine (Coronavirus) - CWC, Mar 17, 15:00:15
      - they rebuffed the offer of me getting their shopping online (Coronavirus) - Tombs, Mar 17, 15:18:18
        
        my mum was still determined to meet other local Irish for St Patrick's Day lunch (Coronavirus) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 17, 15:26:18
        
        What can you do? I know my dad will be the same so I just ask (Coronavirus) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 17, 15:29:12
      - their outlook might end up being the most pragmatic if this drags on for months/years (Coronavirus) - Mecagoenti, Mar 17, 15:08:40
        
        pragmatic for them, but incredibly selfish (Coronavirus) - CWC, Mar 17, 15:37:04
        
        I think that is a bit disingenuous (Coronavirus) - Mecagoenti, Mar 17, 15:50:22
        
        Person A wishing to live freely and putting *other people at risk* is so obviously more (Coronavirus) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 17, 16:19:08
        
        It may be a valid view from a philosophical p.o.v but it is an incredibly selfish one (Coronavirus) - CWC, Mar 17, 16:16:55
        
        but the whole thing is a philosophical issue (Coronavirus) - Mecagoenti, Mar 17, 16:35:22
        
        exactly this (Coronavirus) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 17, 15:48:25
        
        I think people over 80 (like my parents) are probably less scared of death (Coronavirus) - mr carra, Mar 17, 15:18:58
        
        They are,yes. (n/m) (Coronavirus) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 17, 15:26:51
        
        Also, of corse, even the vast majority of over-80s who get it survive (Coronavirus) - mr carra, Mar 17, 15:23:34
        
        absolutely, makes sense that everyone should decide how much risk they are (Coronavirus) - Mecagoenti, Mar 17, 15:30:37
        
        of the over 80s that do survive, how many of those are without visiting ICU? (n/m) (Coronavirus) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 17, 15:28:06
        
        Equally, of course, how many are never even tested so not in the statistics (Coronavirus) - mr carra, Mar 17, 15:33:37

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