Yes I do understand and accept that, and in an ideal ....

....world it is the answer, but trying to get certain football supporters (i.e.the hooligan fringe) to take responsibility for their own actions just isn't going to happen. For many if they had a braincell it would die of loneliness. And therein is the problem - just how far can you go with trying to make the individual responsible for their actions before you must punish the club so the individual understands what they have done. Given present events, and the history of hooliganism that Birmingham City FC unfortunately has I fear that time is now.

Posted By: Saucerer on March 11th 2019 at 18:42:37

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Monica Seles was stabbed on court in 1993 (Other Football) - LowestoftBoy, Mar 11, 16:55:54
- The man who stabbed Seles was obsessed with Steffi Graf (Other Football) - norway, Mar 11, 17:32:49
  - Not sure you can rule out that the Birmingham guy was mentally ill (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Mar 11, 17:45:55
    - You might want to have a word with his defence team then. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Mar 11, 18:14:46
      - Usually has to be a very serious illness (Other Football) - SCC 28, Mar 11, 18:25:33
    - Anyone committing an unprovoked assault (Other Football) - SCC 28, Mar 11, 18:13:32
      - No they don't. Not by any measure. (Other Football) - norway, Mar 11, 18:17:05
        
        Anger can be part of a mental illness (Other Football) - SCC 28, Mar 11, 18:22:52
        
        I kind of feel like I'm done with this topic now. (Other Football) - norway, Mar 11, 18:28:23
        
        Fair enough he was obviously in a great place mentally (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Mar 11, 18:30:32
- I think the Seles incident is what everybody is scared of. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Mar 11, 17:23:02
  - Can't say I am tbh (n/m) (Other Football) - CB41, Mar 11, 19:24:15
  - that and sharknado's (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, Mar 11, 17:49:15
- tbf violent crowd incidents at tennis matches are quite rare (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 11, 17:05:14
  - 😂 (n/m) (Other Football) - helvegtheowl, Mar 11, 18:02:39
  - Fair point, but they are also rare at football matches (Other Football) - LowestoftBoy, Mar 11, 17:09:19
    - Are they? Two incidents over the w/e in England and a load.... (Other Football) - Saucerer, Mar 11, 17:33:44
      - I disagree. Punishign the club for something so difficult to control (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 11, 18:22:57
        
        Yes I do understand and accept that, and in an ideal .... (Other Football) - Saucerer, Mar 11, 18:42:37
        
        true, but then the banning orders etc might be very effective. I don't know (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 11, 18:49:33
        
        Agreed again, but that's my point really. If nothing else is going to work... (Other Football) - Saucerer, Mar 11, 18:59:10
        
        With Alligators in them.... (n/m) (Other Football) - Saucerer, Mar 11, 19:15:19
        
        Moats would work (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 11, 19:08:21
    - Yes, but this was an extension of typical football behaviour (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, Mar 11, 17:13:13
      - Yes, I see that (Other Football) - LowestoftBoy, Mar 11, 17:18:32

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