I find it refreshing that a party would do that

given the alternative is to prioritise being in Government at all costs and to lie to get there. "I have my principles, but if you won't vote for those, I'm happy to change them"

The failure isn't the Labour leadership's stance, it's that our FPTP system isn't built for (any) parties having radical policies. It's designed to maintain a broadly centrist/economically right wing status quo.

I'm no fan of Corbyn but when you take the time to listen to the guy, he has some compelling views. And quite frankly the status quo isn't really working out for anyone right now so maybe a bit of a shake up at the top is what we need? His policies are generally speaking no worse than what is considered mainstream in many places on the Continent.

Posted By: CWC on September 27th 2018 at 10:17:47

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Trump did a Presser........... (General Chat) - usacanary, Sep 27, 00:07:52
- well this thread went off the rails quickly... (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Sep 27, 16:59:49
- Well done all down there VVVVV an actual politics discussion rather than bitchfest. (General Chat) - megson, Sep 27, 14:11:11
  - Well said. Sorry I wasn't around to join in. More of this kind of thing would be grand. (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Sep 27, 18:38:11
- People over here vote for the poor and disabled to live awful awful lives (General Chat) - pants, Sep 27, 00:15:20
  - You can't blame them when the alternative is Corbyn and Abbott. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 05:38:02
    - With respect, that is nonsense. (General Chat) - APB, Sep 27, 06:50:54
      - The current Labour leadership have no interest in actually being an effective opposition. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 06:54:55
        
        i'd say that's only really true when it comes to brexit (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 27, 08:04:08
        
        “Have no interest” (General Chat) - APB, Sep 27, 07:17:44
        
        'Have no interest' may be a stretch (General Chat) - norway, Sep 27, 07:34:02
        
        I totally disagree with that. Labour are a viable option and I'm voting for them (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 27, 20:42:00
        
        I find it refreshing that a party would do that (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 27, 10:17:47
        
        I wouldn’t disagree with most of that. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 12:19:27
        
        I agree. Many accuse Labour of heading far left (General Chat) - Azteca, Sep 27, 10:57:46
        
        I have concerns about Corbyn personally - but broadly, all fair points. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 27, 10:27:16
        
        he's a twat (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 27, 11:18:46
        
        Having never voted Labour or Conservative I find the argument interesting (General Chat) - Men without hats, Sep 27, 08:38:31
        
        You quite like a rabid anti-semite (i.e Racist) because he's personable? (n/m) (General Chat) - Dunney, Sep 27, 09:10:06
        
        Again, with respect... (General Chat) - APB, Sep 27, 12:07:30
        
        i would thought (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 27, 12:24:41
        
        or anti Israel (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 27, 18:32:26
        
        Thank you. That is exactly what I mean. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 07:47:09
        
        Which is why I took issue with being complicit. (General Chat) - APB, Sep 27, 08:36:30
        
        the railways.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 27, 13:32:40
        
        I spent a number of years doing the legal work behind the franchises (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 27, 19:49:20
        
        I worked direct to the CEO of one of the major players for a time (General Chat) - Old Man, Sep 27, 21:54:45
        
        I do remember. They weren’t. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Sep 27, 15:00:27
        
        They weren't. This is what was peddled to justify decision (General Chat) - Worthing Yellow, Sep 27, 17:20:33
        
        They were. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 27, 16:01:50
        
        I don’t believe structures improve outcomes in education one way or the other. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 08:54:01
        
        So the argument against change is that it would be difficult? (General Chat) - APB, Sep 27, 12:00:51
        
        No, the argument about this change. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 12:15:01
        
        Isn't selling off nationalised utilities and handing education to the private sector (General Chat) - megson, Sep 27, 08:34:55
        
        That’s a different argument. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 27, 08:48:30
  - People do that because they think they will never become poor and/or disabled (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 27, 00:47:42
    - thats because (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 27, 08:02:30
      - The vast majority of people become disabled, if they live long enough (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 27, 18:34:46
      - But everyone is at risk of becoming both/either (n/m) (General Chat) - essexcanaryOTBC, Sep 27, 15:37:43
  - Vmt 👆👆👆 (n/m) (General Chat) - Worthing Yellow, Sep 27, 00:18:08

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